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Hi all! New here. It has been roughly 13 years since I've built a desktop. From what I can try to remember, that last build was possibly an Intel Pentium II or III Northbridge which I overclcocked via bios.. I've been a laptop junkie since and have recently ventured back into the sweet world of desktop pcs. I was a Mac user for a few years and picked up another windows laptop for work related stuff. Fell back in love with windows and pc gaming so I wanted more power.

Got a few recommendations elsewhere and from friends about a gaming/media build and have finished putting it together a couple days ago. I put the specs in the "my rig" thing in my profile, but incase it doesnt show up:

Case: ZALMAN Z9 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 AM3+
GPU: MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC 2GB
CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5ghz
Memory: Patriot Gamer 2 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1333
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6GB/S 7200RPM
Cooling: COOLER MASTER V8
PSU: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W
OS: Windows 7 SP1 64bit
Monitors: Frankenstein'd together a triple monitor setup with a 24" viewsonic, 24" emachines, and a 23" apple cinema display

Everything is pretty much all new to me now. I did, however, have some experience with overclocking my cpu and gpu on my windows laptop by using k10stat and sapphire trixx. I've googled terms like "how to overclock" "amd overclocking" and stuff but couldnt really find a solid guide. I did also search on this site and found a guide, which was sadly last revised on April 27, 2011 (which I bumped over on the amd cpu forum) right here: http://www.overclock.net/t/902756/amd-overclock-guide-for-newbs

Given that it has almost been 2 years, is it still a good basis to start off, info wise? Or has too much changed already? Before fully diving in and tinkering with any kind of overclocking, I wanna read up and learn as much as possible. A buddy of mine pointed me right over to you guys (member: clee413).

Looking forward to being and staying active in this community for quite some time. Any suggestions, links, reads and advice would GREATLY be appreciated.

Thanks again smile.gif
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Welcome!! smile.gifsmile.gif You are going to love it here. wave2.gif

The rig you have built seems nice. But questions like, why that?', whats your budget?, what will you use it for?, will crop up and your setup can be changed to best fit these questions.

Because one could just say, ''why the coolermaster v8? The hyper 212 EVO is much much cheaper and may suit your needs fine", "the 7850OC will give you an okay eyefinity setup, you may crossfire another later if needed". All this is subject to.....

... budget, primary use, how far you would like to OC. Put these down, it will help us help you better

That monitor setup blinksmiley.gif
BTW... nice story smile.gif
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haha thanks smile.gif

i actually already built it nerdsmiley.png am on it right now as i type. i made it with an option to xfire in the future. primary uses would be gaming and video/graphic work, which from what ive tested so far, have worked insanely well. also will be using it for media. gonna be using the dvi and 2 minidisplay ports for my tri-monitor setup and the hdmi slot for my 47" tv which will be used for windows media center for our htpc that is networked through out the house.

i love tinkering with numbers and wouldnt mind oc'ing to my machines fullest extend while staying 100% stable of course. thank you again for the very warm welcome smile.gif
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If you're just gaming with the PC, then there's really no reason to overclock the processor. It's got plenty of power to spare considering your GPU setup.

I would definitely recommend overclocking your GPU though! Squeeze some more performance out of it! biggrin.gif
MSI Afterburner v2.3 should be just what you're looking for.
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Originally Posted by neenja View Post

haha thanks smile.gif

i actually already built it nerdsmiley.png am on it right now as i type. i made it with an option to xfire in the future. primary uses would be gaming and video/graphic work, which from what ive tested so far, have worked insanely well. also will be using it for media. gonna be using the dvi and 2 minidisplay ports for my tri-monitor setup and the hdmi slot for my 47" tv which will be used for windows media center for our htpc that is networked through out the house.

i love tinkering with numbers and wouldnt mind oc'ing to my machines fullest extend while staying 100% stable of course. thank you again for the very warm welcome smile.gif

doh.gif I took "putting it together" to be......um... redface.gif virtually.

biggrin.gif Congratulations then! You have a nice overclocking friendly setup.

Read as much as you can. The overclock.net guide is very good.
Let us know your progress thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Jaguarbamf View Post

If you're just gaming with the PC, then there's really no reason to overclock the processor. It's got plenty of power to spare considering your GPU setup.

I would definitely recommend overclocking your GPU though! Squeeze some more performance out of it! biggrin.gif
MSI Afterburner v2.3 should be just what you're looking for.
http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm

loaded up msi and i figure since i have the "oc" version, i dont have to mess with the config file to be able to change teh core and mem clocks. i searched around and saw someone with a setting of 1050core 1450mem. i tried it, applied, and immediately the screen started to flicker. is that because i didnt up my voltage? as of now, the voltage controls are grayed out.. im guessing i have to enable them in the config files.
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doh.gif I took "putting it together" to be......um... redface.gif virtually.

biggrin.gif Congratulations then! You have a nice overclocking friendly setup.

Read as much as you can. The overclock.net guide is very good.
Let us know your progress thumb.gif

thank you!!thumb.gif
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Damn, 13 years what happened a woman? wubsmiley.gif

Welcome back to reality anyway! That build looks pretty awesome. I had the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo before, it's a great cooler for your build (and a little cheaper) vs. the V8. The CPU, you're getting the best AMD has to offer, I plan on upgrading to that same one soon, the Vishera 8350. With a budget cooler I'm going to go out on a whim and say you could overclock it to 4-4.2Ghz range. They are power hungry and very hot after that range (even with an upgraded cooler) from my research. I'm running a liquid cooled setup so I can't wait to get mine - with a good liquid cooler you can get that thing at 5Ghz!

But in reality, you don't need that. I would say shoot for 4Ghz for gaming, it is ideal. I have two other recommendations for that build:

1) Your RAM, I recommend 1866Mhz memory speed. If not that you should at least get 1600Mhz, 1333Mhz is a little dated now and not as future proof. The 1866Mhz is the latest supported speed I believe for the 8350 and if you want to overclock you need to give yourself some head room on the RAM. Also, you can overclock it and probably get close to 2000Mhz, thats a big jump over what you picked! Preferably G Skill or Corsair for brand (although there's nothing really wrong with Patriot but the others are more popular among the PC community). Last month I upgraded to G Skill 1866Mhz 4x4 16GB RAM. It's great, I actually underclocked it to 1600Mhz with great timings.

2) Everyone building a new system I always recommend a solid state drive. Of every upgrade I have ever purchased for my computer, the one signifcant thing that boosted the speed of EVERYTHING was the solid state drive. Under 20 second boot times in Windows, maps on games load fast, and everything else is just damn beautiful. I highly recommend you look at getting an SSD, at least a small 50GB one for your windows install and use the other as a data drive. I personally own the Corsair Force 120GB SSD. I have windows and a few "slow games" on it like Battlefield 3 with huge maps.

Other than that your build looks awesome. And thats so cool you are coming from the "golden age" of PCS. biggrin.gif I miss the old PII / PIII chips along with old school Windows.
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Originally Posted by neenja View Post

loaded up msi and i figure since i have the "oc" version, i dont have to mess with the config file to be able to change teh core and mem clocks. i searched around and saw someone with a setting of 1050core 1450mem. i tried it, applied, and immediately the screen started to flicker. is that because i didnt up my voltage? as of now, the voltage controls are grayed out.. im guessing i have to enable them in the config files.

change the cfg file to a value of 2 instead, i guess that turns off powerplay. researched and found someone said

"change unofficial overclocking mode to 2 instead of 1, it turns off the power saving though, the problem with the flickering is likely your gpu switching between the high power and powers saving modes constantly. if it doesnt stop after this you can turn it back to 1."
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Damn, 13 years what happened a woman? wubsmiley.gif

Welcome back to reality anyway! That build looks pretty awesome. I had the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo before, it's a great cooler for your build (and a little cheaper) vs. the V8. The CPU, you're getting the best AMD has to offer, I plan on upgrading to that same one soon, the Vishera 8350. With a budget cooler I'm going to go out on a whim and say you could overclock it to 4-4.2Ghz range. They are power hungry and very hot after that range (even with an upgraded cooler) from my research. I'm running a liquid cooled setup so I can't wait to get mine - with a good liquid cooler you can get that thing at 5Ghz!

But in reality, you don't need that. I would say shoot for 4Ghz for gaming, it is ideal. I have two other recommendations for that build:

1) Your RAM, I recommend 1866Mhz memory speed. If not that you should at least get 1600Mhz, 1333Mhz is a little dated now and not as future proof. The 1866Mhz is the latest supported speed I believe for the 8350 and if you want to overclock you need to give yourself some head room on the RAM. Also, you can overclock it and probably get close to 2000Mhz, thats a big jump over what you picked! Preferably G Skill or Corsair for brand (although there's nothing really wrong with Patriot but the others are more popular among the PC community). Last month I upgraded to G Skill 1866Mhz 4x4 16GB RAM. It's great, I actually underclocked it to 1600Mhz with great timings.

2) Everyone building a new system I always recommend a solid state drive. Of every upgrade I have ever purchased for my computer, the one signifcant thing that boosted the speed of EVERYTHING was the solid state drive. Under 20 second boot times in Windows, maps on games load fast, and everything else is just damn beautiful. I highly recommend you look at getting an SSD, at least a small 50GB one for your windows install and use the other as a data drive. I personally own the Corsair Force 120GB SSD. I have windows and a few "slow games" on it like Battlefield 3 with huge maps.

Other than that your build looks awesome. And thats so cool you are coming from the "golden age" of PCS. biggrin.gif I miss the old PII / PIII chips along with old school Windows.

haha thank you for your kind words. it was a woman (ex now ha) + i just wanted to be a bit more portable. hmm i still have time to return the current ram sticks i got for an 1866mhz. i will def look into it! may i ask tho, why did you get 1866mhz then underclock it? and is 4x4 16gb ram better than 2x8 16gb ram?

ssd is indeed beautiful! i got a 256 sata2 one (bit slower but still insane vs an hdd) for my macbook pro and instantly fell in love. i DEFINITELY am planning to get one for my boot drive very soon. makes it even better since prices on these bad boys have been dropping a bit. how has 120gb been working out for you? i feel that with the huge increase in size of games i may be looking into also a 256gb.

one thing i am excited to do is research and learn about all the terminology and why people here do the things they do. like how you mentioned underclocking your ram to 1600mhz and got great timings.. way over my head.. haha

would you happen to know (other than google) a guide explaining pretty much everything? or would i really be better off googling about each thing?

and thank you also for mentioning the "golden age" of pcs hahaha! my first rig i ever got was a Packard Bell (yup! before hp!) running Windows 3.0. I clearly remember the sticker on the box saying "upgradable up to 8gb of ram!" great times. and again, i am insanely excited diving back into this world. been a fun ride so far!
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