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I've never owned a video card before. my old pc had onboard video (G43 chipset) SUCKED. well toased that board and my new board has no onboard graphics. I just assumed that a card, any card would be better than onboard. not wanting to spend the 100-200 on a fancy card I just grabbed $15 special off ebay...gotta be better than onboard right? NOPE. ATI Radeon X1300. before it got here I was thinking hey I might get me a game or two. got FC3 before my first pc broke. FPS was horrible...but now It won't even barely load. anyway I been looking at all the diff cards...ram clock, chip clock, ddr2, gddr5, sdram3, etc.... I don't have no clue what i'm looking at!!l all I know is nice ones got big coolers on them. im not looking to spend over 100, lesser is better, but I still want to maybe play a game everyonce in awhile, even if all the settings are on low. what should I look for in a card. what are some good cards that are cheap. im running 4GHz E5300 4Gb Ram 650w PSU.
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core clocks memory clocks, memory type & interface?

also i usually look at reviews and benchmarks , real world tests if available

@$100

you can get an HD7750 or a GTX 640

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%204027&IsNodeId=1&name=%2475%20-%20%24100
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i know i'm supposed to look at the diff clock speeds, and ram types...but what do i want? how fast of clock? what kind of ram? as i said i know nothing about vid cards, as is evident with my waste of $15 on a x1300.....
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also stream processors and cuda cores. what numbers do i want there i read it takes a lot more stream to equal a lot lower cuda. so what numbers am i looking for there?sorry for all the questions.... but i looked at the link and at 640's there is a handful that spec wise look the same but they're all branded diff....whats the difference..ie. msi, galaxy, evga, etx..
Edited by jellyfish420 - 1/14/13 at 10:02pm
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Don't pay attention to cuda or stream processes. Just know that more is better and use it relatively.

The best memory on GPUs is GDDR5, I wouldn't bother getting anything else. 1-2 GB of vram will be good, I wouldn't go less than 1 GB even for casual gaming, but you won't be needing more than 2 GB. You'll also see something called bus width, 128 bits and up would be good. I wouldn't get less than that.

Core and memory clock are important, but only when comparing apples to apples. You can compare clocks on the 600 series, or compare clocks on two different 680s for example. But a 500 series clock speed is not equal to a 600 series clock speed. Even within a series clock speeds are not exactly the same, but they're close enough.

Double check your motherboard supports a pcie x16 card, most do except older more basic ones. If it does that's the interface you want. Also make sure it will fit in your case and it has the proper outputs for your monitor. Also check that your power supply has enough juice for it (650 W should be plenty), and the right connectors.

Other than compatibility and price, I'd just pick your GPU with game benchmarks. You probably want to stick to Nvidia 400, 500, and 600 series, and AMD 5000, 6000, and 7000 series.
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post #6 of 24
OP given your Pentium dual core CPU don't spend more than 100 bucks. also check if your motherboard has a PCI-E 16x or 8x graphics slot.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102969

as mentioned above the higher the cuda cores or stream processors the better it is. also you can't compare Nvidia cores with AMD cores. they are architecturally different. memory speed and type is important . GDDR5 memory is the best. stay away from GDDR3 versions.
Edited by raghu78 - 1/14/13 at 10:28pm
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pci-e 16x
and no i don't wanna spend more than 100. actually right now I've only got 2 dollars.. thumb.gif as i just rebuilt my pc, around my chip and 2 hdd out of my old pc. new case, board, psu, cooler, fans, vid card (ha)
Edited by jellyfish420 - 1/14/13 at 10:30pm
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I could sell you a 8800 Ultra 768MB for $45 and it will be Way better then a X1300. If not that, a GTX 460 OR GTX 560 Ti OR GTS 640/650 would be great.

Here is a GTX 650 for $89.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162124 It will make you happy but won't be able to MAX the Settings on FC3 though.

If you don't mind buying Used but MINT, here is a GTX 460 for $90 http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-460-01G-P3-1373-AR-1-GB-GDDR5-SDRAM-PCI-Express-x16-/111000626296?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item19d8272478

If you want to splurge some here is a card to make FC3 run on Medium Graphics, if your Res is lower. GTX 660 Ti for $275 http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-02G-P4-3660-KR-GeForce-GTX-660-Ti-2G-PCI-Express-3-0-x16-Video-Card-422A-/190782986444?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item2c6b8d58cc

Also, might as well throw in my GTX 580 FTW for only $299.99 biggrin.gif It performs around a GTX 670! thumb.gif
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post #9 of 24
It depends on your requirements basically (HDCP VS GAMING) but
genrally in a gaming card you need to look out for these things
1) No. of shaders
2) Memory Interface/type/bandwidth
3) Power requirements or TDP
4) Ports available
5) Direct X/Open GL version supported

Generally the clock speed approach is only valid if you are comparing 2 cards based on the same chipset, for eg gtx 460 reference edition had 675 mhz clock speed and the oced msi variant named hawk edition had 810 mhz clock speed so here clearly the hawk variant will perform better.

Its genrally a very tricky parameter to judge a card, so its always advisable to look for product reviews comparing cards based on 2 or more different chipsets , taking into account their real world performance rather than sheer no.

Lastly don't always look at no. they are there to deceive you if nothing else(i mean no of shaders and clock speed these 2 are not good for comparing 2 cards especially nv and amd based ones as both have very different architectures) thumb.gif
post #10 of 24
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pimp I would take that 8800...if I had some monies...you still got it in about a month i'll pick it up. its priced right.....cheap

ghost. I sure was looking at memory type, and direct x. I thought you was supposed to look at memory?
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