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Of course it's helpful. This is the art of war. Like I wrote above you don't accidentally hire ppl smuggling 100,000 files by accident. It's not like they made out with a briefcase though you know... something it could be the whole shebang?

Then again... it would be stupid to knowling hire " hire ppl smuggling 100,000 files" because you become liable.


Is that to say companies don't do stupid things? If you look at the link I posted on Spygate, Mclaren was fined 100m pounds US. They do act stupid from time to time.
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This is the definition of "Scum." Think about how many people were working on that content, only to have it stolen by a few dudes to give to the competition.

This is really disgusting.
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It seems like the evidence is credible, and I hope they get their IP back.
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It seems like the evidence is credible, and I hope they get their IP back.

That is the problem though. You can't make nVidia un-learn the contents of those documents, once secrets are out it is too late.

It is very easy to steal documents, I even did it by mistake when I left my last job - I had left some drawings in a bag after a site visit and forgot to return them.

To do so on such a large scale though is a little harder, I'm slightly surprised that AMD didn't catch on earlier.
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That is the problem though. You can't make nVidia un-learn the contents of those documents, once secrets are out it is too late.

It is very easy to steal documents, I even did it by mistake when I left my last job - I had left some drawings in a bag after a site visit and forgot to return them.

To do so on such a large scale though is a little harder, I'm slightly surprised that AMD didn't catch on earlier.

That's technically not stealing... just to absolve you there.
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lachen.gif Is this supposed to be funny or am I missing something?

Not implied but fun for the rest of us. That was hilarious.
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Read article. Judge ordered a restraining order on all of their computers, storage devices, etc. Authorities can search and may possibly find evidence.

True, but that doesn't apply to nVidia's computers, only the 4 ex-employees.


What stcawthern was talking about was nVidia's computers, which the judge hasn't granted a search warrant or restraining order on. It's those computers that matter, because if this actually happened, and nVidia is in possession of AMD trade secrets, they are in a world of hurt. But as stcawthern points out, this will be next to impossible to prove. As it stands now, there isn't enough evidence to even get a search warrant on the ex-employees. Search warrant != Restraining order. And even if they do later find the data in the ex-employees possession, that is a long way from proving that nVidia did anything wrong or even got the data.

I'm not saying it won't happen, but I seriously doubt it.
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If Nvidia had any knowledge of this they''re in the run for a medal of stupendous stupidity.
If any tech developed fromt his or related to this by Nvidia it's going to be lawsuitfest 2000. No matter the outcome, it's a loose loose situation.
But I don't think Nvidia is involved. I believe it's just a bunch of professional morons trying to "Get back" at their employer for something by taking things they believe are theirs to take.
The million dollar lawsuit version of jamming a pencil in the copy machine or stealing all the staples on your last day at work.
 
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True, but that doesn't apply to nVidia's computers, only the 4 ex-employees.


What stcawthern was talking about was nVidia's computers, which the judge hasn't granted a search warrant or restraining order on. It's those computers that matter, because if this actually happened, and nVidia is in possession of AMD trade secrets, they are in a world of hurt. But as stcawthern points out, this will be next to impossible to prove. As it stands now, there isn't enough evidence to even get a search warrant on the ex-employees. Search warrant != Restraining order. And even if they do later find the data in the ex-employees possession, that is a long way from proving that nVidia did anything wrong or even got the data.

I'm not saying it won't happen, but I seriously doubt it.

Actually my thought on the matter was that AMD was pursuing the ex-employees civilly, and not criminally, in order to get their cooperation with regards to Nvidia's role in this.

Something along the lines of "Tell us what you know and we won't call the FBI."
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Actually my thought on the matter was that AMD was pursuing the ex-employees civilly, and not criminally, in order to get their cooperation with regards to Nvidia's role in this.

Something along the lines of "Tell us what you know and we won't call the FBI."

True. Right now they are going in the civil court system, most likely because they know they don't have squat to actually go the criminal route. Problem is, once you go that route, it makes going the criminal route after the fact VERY HARD. Law enforcement doesn't like getting "tainted data". They like to be the ones to get their hands on it first, that way they can remain the neutral party. If AMD turns up something from a civil investigation, it will be very easy for nVidia to defend themselves criminally.

I just think that AMD's case it weak.
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