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It seems like a lot of the time, the only argument ATI/AMD card owners have is that AMD has 4 or 6GB of RAM vs nvid's barely 4GB even on their highest end cards. So why doesn't nvid add more vram? It can't be THAT expensive if AMD piles it on like that and still has competitively priced cards.

Who cares what "argument" AMD card owners have. That really does not make sense except in the context of fanboy wars where a real discussion of the benefits and drawbacks of each product is eschewed in favor of "which manufacturer has the best cards" arguments.

The best card is the card that gives you the best performance in the games/apps you use in your budget. Sometimes that is an AMD card, sometimes it is an Nvidia card, sometimes it is even an Intel.

There is no one "best", AMD or Nvidia.
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post #32 of 51
Why?
1. It limits the card's max overclock
2. it makes the PCB more complex (adds cost)
3. memory also costs money
4. because you can do triple 1080p pretty well with a 2GB card anyway
5. because Nvidia doesn't really care about surround setups (their surround drivers are terrible)
post #33 of 51
Yes the GTX 660Ti has a 192 Bit bus and 2GB of VRam nvidia said they had to add something to address the extra i think its 256MB but they wouldn't divulge the information so that ATi could use the same method.
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post #34 of 51
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Why?
1. It limits the card's max overclock
2. it makes the PCB more complex (adds cost)
3. memory also costs money
4. because you can do triple 1080p pretty well with a 2GB card anyway
5. because Nvidia doesn't really care about surround setups (their surround drivers are terrible)

1. please show proof.... Equivalent amd 7*** series cards overclock higher and have more Vram
2. Nvidia can afford it, their cards are more expensive
3. as above
4. 2560x1440 is becoming ever more popular.
5. sli was released long before cfx, History contradicts your theory
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1. please show proof.... Equivalent amd 7*** series cards overclock higher and have more Vram
The guy at singularity computers has said that the cards with extra Vram tend to max out their OC a lot lower than the reference cards.

Also, coming to a conclusion on the overclockability of GPUs by comparing two different architectures is nonsensical.
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2. Nvidia can afford it, their cards are more expensive
3. as above
I don't think Nvidia wants to increase the price of their cards significantly to gain the approval of the fans of surround.
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4. 2560x1440 is becoming ever more popular.
You don't need more than 2GB of VRAM to run at 2560x1600, and it's still not that popular; unless you are going for a Korean monitor, you will have to pay a massive amount.
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5. sli was released long before cfx, History contradicts your theory
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5. because Nvidia doesn't really care about surround setups
They may have had SLI for a while, but their multi monitor drivers are pretty bad compared to AMD's.
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post #37 of 51
You forgot
6 only a moron would run at of ram before turning down a setting or two wink.gif
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My nVidia 580's have 3GB of RAM and I run at 2560x1440. I don't need any more. More than 4GB of memory on a video card is a waste 99% of the time. So if your card has more than 4GB of memory, odds are it is being wasted and it would be better to take it off and lower the price.
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You forgot
6 only a moron would run at of ram before turning down a setting or two wink.gif
You're suggesting that compromising is for smart people? rolleyes.gif
post #40 of 51
You would be surprised how insane people go to say they can completely max out a game, makes me sick to my stomach sometimes frown.gif Like the difference between 8x and 16x AA is an absolute deal-breaker. Oops, better trade in my 2Gb 680 for four 4Gb 680's to get that extra couple frames per second.

This is OCN. People max out the RAM on their motherboards for aesthetics.
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