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Thanks for all the input. After browsing through Toms Hardware 2005/2006 CPU roundup I noticed that the Pentium D would edge out an AMD 64 3700+ in a couple of dual core dependent tasks (including Premiere). Problem is that in almost every other benchmark the 3700+ wins, including a couple of encoding benchmarks. Especially since I'm hoping to overclock. My long term plan is about a year from now (depending on prices) to upgrade to an Opteron 165-175 or start from scratch with a Core 2. I'm just limited to $150 right now, because I still need to purchase a decent case and power supply. Once again, thanks for everyone's help!
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post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by grape8pe View Post
Thanks for all the input. After browsing through Toms Hardware 2005/2006 CPU roundup I noticed that the Pentium D would edge out an AMD 64 3700+ in a couple of dual core dependent tasks (including Premiere). Problem is that in almost every other benchmark the 3700+ wins, including a couple of encoding benchmarks. Especially since I'm hoping to overclock. My long term plan is about a year from now (depending on prices) to upgrade to an Opteron 165-175 or start from scratch with a Core 2. I'm just limited to $150 right now, because I still need to purchase a decent case and power supply. Once again, thanks for everyone's help!
Good plan! The Pentium D is known for OC'ing really high with sufficient cooling, and may OC to a point where it may beat the 3700+ OC.

However, I do think that the mobo in combo #2 does support a Core 2 Duo, and you can still use DDR memory for that, just to let you know
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post #13 of 15
IMO, althow the premiere is benefiting from dual and quad cores it's worth considering that a AMD 3700 has a power far greater than one core of the PD805. In fact it has a power greater than the 2 cores of the 805 in a number of applications.

If you're thinking on OCing we should compare what you can achieve with the first 2 setups, the third doesn't count. With the first you could take the 3700 from 2.2 up to ~2.7-2.8GHz stock cooling with the BIOSTAR mobo.

With that asrock the PD805 would hardly achieve 3.2GHz which is not that much for the Pentium CPUs, moreover @3.2GHz it would have ONLY 640FSB which really hampers with its performance.

If my assumptions on OCing the two would become at least partially true what would be better? A 2.7GHz A64 @245FSB or a 3.2GHz pentiumD @640FSB? I would take the AMD rig any day... I should mention that the integrated graphics on the BIOSTAR is far better than the one on the Asrock, gaming on Intel gfx is impossible.
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post #14 of 15
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IMO, althow the premiere is benefiting from dual and quad cores it's worth considering that a AMD 3700 has a power far greater than one core of the PD805. In fact it has a power greater than the 2 cores of the 805 in a number of applications.

If you're thinking on OCing we should compare what you can achieve with the first 2 setups, the third doesn't count. With the first you could take the 3700 from 2.2 up to ~2.7-2.8GHz stock cooling with the BIOSTAR mobo.

With that asrock the PD805 would hardly achieve 3.2GHz which is not that much for the Pentium CPUs, moreover @3.2GHz it would have ONLY 640FSB which really hampers with its performance.

If my assumptions on OCing the two would become at least partially true what would be better? A 2.7GHz A64 @245FSB or a 3.2GHz pentiumD @640FSB? I would take the AMD rig any day... I should mention that the integrated graphics on the BIOSTAR is far better than the one on the Asrock, gaming on Intel gfx is impossible.
I totally forgot that the AsRock OC's bad. However, the PD 820 is about the same price ATM, so going with that option, you could possibly get 3.5Ghz with 250x4 FSB

But you are right, the 3700+ would be better for lots of apps. Go with that setup, I've heard good things about that mobo
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post #15 of 15
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Yup definitely. You might just save up and get a nice C2D set up that will last you a few years.


save a little bit more keep the biostar motherboard and get an dual core X2 3800 amd.
    
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