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iphone will die if they don't do a major hardware and OS makeover, this is basically the same thing that happened to nokia, they always had phones with amazing hardware but the symbian OS grew old, people got tired of it, now apple is repeating this very same mistake, the worst part is that it's not only OS wise, but also hardware wise.

i also think that this is the same reason why microsoft is trying to innovate with their windows OS,
Doing an "OS makeover" would make things worse. The one thing iOS has over everyone else is that it is so consistent. There's no learning curve at all. Getting rid of that would be a big mistake.

How exactly can you fault them hardware wise? They've got some of the best displays and most powerful graphics, and the processor, though not the most powerful out, is pretty good too. Not to mention battery life.
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The iPhone should be just an Apple flavor of smartphone. Let me say this though... I used an iPhone for 4 years and I switched to ANDROID for the open platform. If Apple opens up iOS (never happen), and make it so you don't need iTunes to "sync" files on and off, I will run right back to iOS. I prefer it. I just do. Sturdy construction, and some of the design was just smarter. There were strange inovative featuires I would find out about as I used the phone, but wouldn't ever go out mod my way to mod into my Galaxy. Everything in that phone was centered around convenience. And when I jailbroke it, I had even more fun.
Have you used iTunes 11? It's much better. Nevertheless I have a hard time understanding why anyone doesn't want to use iTunes. It makes getting files on and off (music, books, movies, photos, etc.) much quicker and easier.
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Doing an "OS makeover" would make things worse. The one thing iOS has over everyone else is that it is so consistent. There's no learning curve at all. Getting rid of that would be a big mistake.

That is one of the nice things about iOS. You do not have to worry about trying to learn an entirely new UI with every new device. It is also simple for first time users.
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How exactly can you fault them hardware wise? They've got some of the best displays and most powerful graphics, and the processor, though not the most powerful out, is pretty good too. Not to mention battery life.
Have you used iTunes 11? It's much better. Nevertheless I have a hard time understanding why anyone doesn't want to use iTunes. It makes getting files on and off (music, books, movies, photos, etc.) much quicker and easier.

In the hardware category they are doing well. The OS is optimized to take advantage of the hardware and utilize its full potential. I'd rather have an OS and apps that utilize my dual core CPUs potential than a quad core CPU that won't be utilized until years later, after I've switched phones. I agree. I like iTunes it is simple and easy to use. Adding/removing music and photos isn't difficult.
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Have you used iTunes 11? It's much better. Nevertheless I have a hard time understanding why anyone doesn't want to use iTunes. It makes getting files on and off (music, books, movies, photos, etc.) much quicker and easier.

Because it assumes you only have 1 computer and 1 library, and even though you can authorise your account to operate on more than 1 machine, you can't ever transfer music from any other machine except that one, unless you delete everything and start over. How is that sensible? Yes it can "work" for preventing piracy, but get over the boat and realise you're not really helping the situation by conceding you have to ship DRM free music. On a device with universal mass storage, you pick, and choose, drag and drop. Simple, no hassle.

It's also incomplete. It still can't open eBooks despite supporting them in the library, so if you have a mistagged ebook, you have to put it on the device, realise it's mistagged, move it off, then sort it out, then put it back, rather than just being able to check beforehand.

The file formats are restrictive (No avi/divx/xvid on the iPod? Seriously? How old and ubiquitous are those) and even content from the iTunes store is not all that great looking when you look at the filesizes they give you. Similarly, the conversion options within the program (I can't find them now) aren't so helpful either - I can only have the option to convert to AAC, and the minimum bitrate is 128kbps...Using MediaMonkey I can set to 5 different formats and multiple bitrates and bitrate types (I would, for example, on a device with limited storage be happy listening to 64kbps CBR MP3's but you don't have that opportunity). Why do I make such a fuss over formats? Well, I understand that MP3 is still the de-facto standard for music, but other formats do exist. Yes other players do play more formats and some do try and push their own (WMP with WMA, iTunes with AAC), but iTunes (like WMP) forces you to convert anything else into *THEIR* format rather than something standard. What happens when you decide to switch? At least with a player like MediaMonkey you can import everything in the format you have it in, and leave it at that without conversion shenanigans, if you want to.

The tagging isn't universal and oftentimes only works for iTunes, meaning you have to retag from a more standard setting, to an iTunes compliant one. This gets irritating especially when you've taken the time to tag videos, for example, and then reformat and have to retag it all.

Also, I'm not sure that even with codecs, it can play FLAC.

I don't know if this is an issue still, but before (iTunes 9/10) you could not rip a CD with some other program, and have it update the album art and info using the iTunes database. It gave an error saying you needed to rip the album using iTunes (see the issue with file formats) I don't see the reason for this except protectionism. Surely if the goal is a nice user experience, you don't care where the person gets their music from - just that they have it and can enjoy it from wherever it came from. And here's the catch - most other companies don't HAVE a database that big, making this something Apple could be using as a trump card.

iTunes 11 is better, yes, and seems a lot faster, but I get more functionality from MediaMonkey 3.2 and will stick with it. Unfortunately, Apple continue (for me this is my pet peeve) the hike towards adding extraneous functionality and gloss while leaving out support for things I consider basic. I'm not an audiophilem, though - I figure someone who is may have even stronger opinions/postions than I.
Edited by -iceblade^ - 1/17/13 at 8:08am
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^ Well said.

And someone mentioned batterylife? Please it's no better than any other android/windows phone. With constant usage it won't last more than 1-2 days.
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This guy just said "this year the cool kids are into Windows phones"

All credibility out the Windows.
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^ Well said.

And someone mentioned batterylife? Please it's no better than any other android/windows phone. With constant usage it won't last more than 1-2 days.

Eh, it kind of does. My iPhone 4 has pretty impressive battery life.
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I can say apple is getting scared of samsung, their sales are down. iPhone lust is down big time, no one wants a iPhone anymore. I live in the mid west (about an hour away from Chicago) # of iPhone users had gone down drastically. Wanna know what phone I see more during the day then any other phone. The damn GS3, I have seen only a couple people with the new long iphone and even one of them thought the phone was meh. No question that iOS is starting to get dated, the look of the UI is so 2007... This is why even google has been able to come in and have a truly better OS on hand. People that think android suck probably only have used 2.3 and under which do suck no going to deny that. Windows phone on the other hand is a breath of fresh air in the phone world. The UI is cool looking, phone is super fast even though the hardware isnt the best. It may not be the best when it comes to apps, but the OS itself is probably better then both iOS and Android when It comes to how well it was coded.

Here it's probably 40-50% android 25-30% iOS and the rest is flip phones and whatnot.

Where I am it's even more crazy. A few years ago literally EVERYONE had an iPhone. I was one of the first people I knew to have an Android phone (Moto Droid). Now, literally EVERYONE has a GS3. If I go some place to buy food, be it a store, restaurant, etc. It's almost assured that someone within 5m has a GS3. That thing is EVERYWHERE.

Meanwhile I've seen a total of FOUR iPhone 5s, and only three of them in my area. The fourth one belongs to a friend, and I've tried it, and TBH it doesn't feel like a "new" phone. Its like the iPhone4S-LONG or something - similar to the GS3 mini. Meanwhile, in the last two weeks, at least 3 people I know have bought an S3.



And yes, I'm still waiting for the smartphone with dumbphone battery life - or better yet, battery life equal to my Zune HD. The last time I charged that thing was the 21st or 22nd, and I JUST got the low-battery warning yesterday afternoon. I leave it on 24/7, and use it to play music almost every day. THAT kind of battery life would be amazing.
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iTunes 11 is better, yes, and seems a lot faster, but I get more functionality from MediaMonkey 3.2 and will stick with it. Unfortunately, Apple continue (for me this is my pet peeve) the hike towards adding extraneous functionality and gloss while leaving out support for things I consider basic. I'm not an audiophilem, though - I figure someone who is may have even stronger opinions/postions than I.

i'm kind of an audiophile. the thing is there are very few phones with decent audio outs. the international s3 supposedly has a good sound card, but i have never heard it. as far as i know the s3 and the iphone are the only phones with decent dedicated sound cards-beyond that i don't even really know if the international s3 performs better or worse.

yeah apple lossless isn't that widely used, but i don't think there is any reason to use more than 320kbps on a mobile device, due to space and battery life considerations. not to mention, many consider the difference between 320kbps and beyond the limits of human hearing.

but yeah i think the iphone is one of the only phones with a decent audio out. sure itunes is a minor annoyance, but the audio quality makes up for it
Edited by perfectblade - 1/17/13 at 12:24pm
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Ever since Steve Jobs passed away, Apple stopped reinventing the wheel.
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