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I find R4s to be too whiny and annoying as hell..

..? Lol I don't even know what that means.

Yup, I have vipers in front, H80 p/p rear exhaust, and the stock fans both up top.

I like the vipers but if you don't need PWM, or if you go with 120 mm fans, you have a lot more options.

R4s have a high pitch whine to them when they are turned up all the way. I use to have 4 of them but they drove me nuts.
 
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I'm fairly certain the D14 will be quieter. The H80 pump is the loudest thing in my case when I'm just idling around and browsing OCN. If I turn everything up, the fans are also the loudest. Next up is the GPU at full tilt. Having said that, the H80 fans almost never need to spin up that much so it isn't an issue. The pump is honestly a little annoying. I had that terrible grinding issue so I undervolted it a tad and it's seems normal, but like I said, loudest thing when I'm not gaming.

Thanks!

So in your opinion, will a NH-D14 with two front intakes and 1 rear exhaust be enough?

Xeb: Do you mean the stock fans of the R4? If so, I may change the stock fans.
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R4s have a high pitch whine to them when they are turned up all the way. I use to have 4 of them but they drove me nuts.

Well the R4 is a case...so that sentence doesn't make sense. But if you mean the fans, I don't have that problem. Nothing high pitched at all for me. Maybe talk to fractal?

And dairy, you might need more exhaust if your GPU just dumps heat into the case. Id try it out and then add fans later if it isn't enough.
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post #14 of 34
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OK. Thanks. Will the Noctua A-14's fit in the case?
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Where on our big blue marble are you located? Helps determine what you have available on your part of the marble. biggrin.gif

I think all coolers fit. I have R2 with Phanteks PH-TC14PE in it and have had Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E Extrene in it... and it's not as wide as R4.

As for fans the R4 uses 140mm square housing fans. My favorite fan is Thermalright TY-140 series and TY-147 are £5.99 on special here right now... but would require modification to fit and possible mount. Next best is Scythe Kase Maru2 / Slip Stream 140 PWM. It is 140x140mm but sides are curved so don't know if you could modify your front mounts to hold them.

I have older R2 modified to use 140mm fans. I only use 3x intake fans; 2x front & 1x bottom with case raised on caster to give more airflwo to bottom and easier access to case. All fans are TY-140 and all are controlled by CPU fan socket PWM signal from motherboard. Same signal that controls CPU fans.. also TY-140 series fans.
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R4s have a high pitch whine to them when they are turned up all the way. I use to have 4 of them but they drove me nuts.

Well the R4 is a case...so that sentence doesn't make sense. But if you mean the fans, I don't have that problem. Nothing high pitched at all for me. Maybe talk to fractal?

And dairy, you might need more exhaust if your GPU just dumps heat into the case. Id try it out and then add fans later if it isn't enough.
They are also fans.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103052

Sorry.
 
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Where on our big blue marble are you located? Helps determine what you have available on your part of the marble. biggrin.gif

I think all coolers fit. I have R2 with Phanteks PH-TC14PE in it and have had Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E Extrene in it... and it's not as wide as R4.

As for fans the R4 uses 140mm square housing fans. My favorite fan is Thermalright TY-140 series and TY-147 are £5.99 on special here right now... but would require modification to fit and possible mount. Next best is Scythe Kase Maru2 / Slip Stream 140 PWM. It is 140x140mm but sides are curved so don't know if you could modify your front mounts to hold them.

I have older R2 modified to use 140mm fans. I only use 3x intake fans; 2x front & 1x bottom with case raised on caster to give more airflwo to bottom and easier access to case. All fans are TY-140 and all are controlled by CPU fan socket PWM signal from motherboard. Same signal that controls CPU fans.. also TY-140 series fans.

I'm in the States. So you have 3 intake fans, but how about your exhaust fans? I would assume you need less fans if you want to keep positive pressure(?)

Anyone know if the thermalright's will fit without modification?

Thanks!
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Just use the DH14 and the stock fans that came with the case. Then add two SP120 Quiet Edition fans, one in the top panel as exhaust and one on the bottom panel as exhaust. Corsair Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition CO-9050006-WW 120mm Twin Pack High Static Pressure Case Fan http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181025
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Do you mean to put the stock fans in their original position? So this will be 1 intake and 3 exhausts?
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I'm in the States. So you have 3 intake fans, but how about your exhaust fans? I would assume you need less fans if you want to keep positive pressure(?)

Anyone know if the thermalright's will fit without modification?

Thanks!
Thermalright TY-140 series will not fit. They are not square.

Modified TY-140 series to be square with 60mm flat on each side.
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My sidecover vent is closed but top back vent is open. I have no exhaust fans. Back vent grill is removed. PSU and bottom vent grills are removed. This increases airflow. R2 originally had 120mm front and back fans. Front fan holders / filters are removed and a new front panel with 140mm holes sets in front with fans inside of case and mounting screws sandwiching factory metal front panel. Filters on front are Silverstone magnetic mounting as is bottom filter

R4 has a nice slide-out design for bottom filters which should work very well. The problem as I understand it is the front fan mounting system is plastic clips that clip over fan sides to hold a square housing 140mm fan in place. I don't have access to one to be sure but if these clips are like 50mm apart than a modified TY-140 series would clip in with 5mm each clip catching on the flat edge of fan. That's my theory but as yet not proven to work.. or not.


As OS-Wiz says use the stock fans and see what you get. They are not bad fans.

And if you are using a NH-D14 than you probably don't have PWM fans on it anyway..
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