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Would he benefit more with the i7-3930K 6-core CPU, than the i7 3770k?

Also debating GTX 680 vs the Quadro 4000? What would benefit him more, hes an architect student. I posted the programs he will be using in the OP.

Also would an IPS screen benefit him more???

I am gonna post a preliminary list in sec build will be done by next week.

The quadro would probably be better but it is no where near necessary. The quadro is meant for professional use like designing complex buildings and such. By the time your friend gets to the point where he needs a quadro, he will also probably need 2 xeon CPUs on a single motherboard with a crap ton of ram.

I know of no engineering student, or architecture student who actually needs anything beyond a higher end HP pc.

Maybe when he is doing his research project for graduation he might need cluster computing, but I would assume the school would provide that.
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post #13 of 18
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Ok here is the list thanks for all the recommendations. Please input on the list picked some of the parts based on the experience I had building my own computer. I went with the six-core since 3ds max is more CPU based so he gets all the power he needs. I am missing the CPU cooler any closed liquid cooler that would fit in the Phantom case?

Case - NZXT Phantom ATX - $125
http://www.microcenter.com/product/357935/Crafted_Series_Phantom_ATX_Full_Tower_Gaming_Computer_Case

CPU - Intel i7 3930k LGA 2011 - $500
http://www.microcenter.com/product/376493/Core_i7_3930K_32GHz_LGA_2011_Boxed_Processor

MOBO - ASRock x79 Extreme6 LGA 2011 - $220
http://www.amazon.com/LGA2011-X79-CrossFirex-Motherboard-EXTREME6/dp/B006ZBS2H6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1364179271&sr=8-1&keywords=ASRock+X79+Extreme6+LGA+2011

Memory - G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 - $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231503

Video Card - eVGA GTX 670 2GB - $375
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130782

SSD - 120GB Samsung 840 Series - $93
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-120GB-internal-Solid-MZ-7TD120BW/dp/B009NHAF06/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1364179717&sr=1-1&keywords=samsung+120gb

HDD - 2TB Toshiba 7200rpm sata 6.0gb/s - $90
http://www.microcenter.com/product/406836/2TB_7,200_RPM_SATA_60Gb-s_Desktop_35_Internal_Hard_Drive_PH3200U-1I72

PSU - Corsair Professional Series Gold 850W HX850 - $135
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Professional-Series-Modular-HX850/dp/B0090I9W66/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1364179910&sr=8-1&keywords=hx850

Optical Drive - Pioneer Blue-ray burner BDR207DBK - $60
http://www.microcenter.com/product/399290/Pioneer_BDR207DBK_12x_Internal_Blu-ray_Burner_-_Bare_Drive

Network Card - Linksys Wireless-N PCI card - $60
http://www.microcenter.com/product/313727/Wireless-N_Low_Profile_PCI_Adapter_with_Dual-Band

OS- Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit OEM - $100
http://www.microcenter.com/product/361170/Windows_7_Home_Premium_SP1_64-bit_OEM_PC

Monitor - 23" Samsung S23B300B - $140
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-S23B300B-23-Inch-LED-Lit-Monitor/dp/B007ARLMI0

CPU Cooler - ??????????????

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post #14 of 18
^^^

A couple things

1) those programs don't benefit too much from having faster memory. I urge you to wait for a newegg 10% off desktop ram sale and snag something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226315 and get the full 32GB of ram.

2) the video card should be downgraded slightly to this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133452. You still get the same amount of cuda cores at a lower price, but it will not overclock as well. I don't think it matters since your friend doesn't sound gaming oriented.

3) Toshiba is HORRIBLE. I wouldn't trust their products at all. Thankfully I have a solution http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66010&vpn=ST2000DM001&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1293 same price, faster storage, same storage, FAR more reliable.

4) SSD space and storage is actually going to probably matter in this situation. http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Series-2-5-Inch-MZ-7PD256BW/dp/B009NB8WRU This is the drive I would recommend.

5) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116019 This PSU is all you will need. It is a great PSU and it is on sale for cheap.

6)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166082 This will do the same job and it is cheaper than the wireless adapter you have chosen. If you really want the wow factor, then you could go with a wireless AC adapter, but you should ask the college if they support wireless AC first. (assuming your friend is living on campus)

7)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236288 For not much more, you get an IPS monitor. IPS=Better
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post #15 of 18
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^^^

A couple things

1) Isn't DDR 1600 on the low end? i would like to stay with Corsair or G.Skill on the memory don't know much about Mushkin.

2) He'll do light gaming, will consider. I just love eVGA because of their awesome customer service. Or MSi since the warranty is transferable.

3) Alright! Will do; too bad the Samsung's F3's are discontinued right?

4) Alright will bump the storage. Whats the difference between the pro and the regular version for the 840? I have an old 830 and its been bullet proof.

5) Didn't know that NZXT did PSU's. Its not modular so that's a no for me :\

6) He is not living in campus. Seems a good discount compared to the Linksys.

7) Awesome screen, didn't know they were cheaper now. Will definitely go with this one.
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post #16 of 18
1) DDR3-1600 is in the "decent" range of speeds. The lowest decent one, but still respectable enough. The current consensus is that perhaps 1866 is the price/performance sweet-spot, but 1600 and 2133 also good choices.

2) If you're going to get a GTX 670, I recommend EVGA's FTW Edition. It uses the PCB and cooling system of the 680, so it'll be a bit higher-quality. Plus EVGA's service goes without saying.

4) The difference between the pro and regular versions of the Samsung 840 is that the Pro uses MLC (2-bits-per-cell) NAND like the 830, whereas the non-Pro uses cheaper TLC (3-bits-per-cell) NAND. The biggest tangible difference will be the write performance of the non-Pro being markedly inferior.

5) Do not get that NZXT PSU. It's ripple and noise characteristics are outside of ATX specifications, and NZXT claims that it only guarantees the performance of it up to 35 degrees Celcius. You'd be much better served with a higher-end model like Rosewill's Capstone 750-M.
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1) DDR3-1600 is in the "decent" range of speeds. The lowest decent one, but still respectable enough. The current consensus is that perhaps 1866 is the price/performance sweet-spot, but 1600 and 2133 also good choices.

2) If you're going to get a GTX 670, I recommend EVGA's FTW Edition. It uses the PCB and cooling system of the 680, so it'll be a bit higher-quality. Plus EVGA's service goes without saying.

4) The difference between the pro and regular versions of the Samsung 840 is that the Pro uses MLC (2-bits-per-cell) NAND like the 830, whereas the non-Pro uses cheaper TLC (3-bits-per-cell) NAND. The biggest tangible difference will be the write performance of the non-Pro being markedly inferior.

5) Do not get that NZXT PSU. It's ripple and noise characteristics are outside of ATX specifications, and NZXT claims that it only guarantees the performance of it up to 35 degrees Celcius. You'd be much better served with a higher-end model like Rosewill's Capstone 750-M.

To expand on this a bit more, the programs your friend is running love more ram. Faster ram does give you slightly better performance, but no where near the same amount as more ram would. Also, the low end is 1333. 1600mhz is perfectly fine as this gentleman stated.

2) He won't need a higher quality card. If he were gaming I would agree, but it is totally useless in a workstation like this.

4) True + he also gets more IOPS which is good for CAD.

5) says who? The hale series has been reported as being very good. What source do you have for it being bad?
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5) Do not get that NZXT PSU. It's ripple and noise characteristics are outside of ATX specifications, and NZXT claims that it only guarantees the performance of it up to 35 degrees Celcius. You'd be much better served with a higher-end model like Rosewill's Capstone 750-M.

The HALE 82 is based on a Seasonic unit but cant recall which one

The HALE 90 V1 is based on the Super Flower Golden Green

The HALE 90 V2 is based on a new FSP platform but have yet to find more then that

Short version none of them are nowhere near bad

And if you did not know the HALE 90 V1 and the Capstone is based on the same Super Flower PSU! the Golden Green
Edited by shilka - 3/25/13 at 6:55am
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