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I never heard of the guy, quick google search brought this as the #1 result for his name. I'm assuming this is one of the blogs in question.
http://shaneshaneradbone.blogspot.ca/

Thanks! Too bad its blocked at work. I guess I'll wait till I get home.
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Wow, I just read some of the possibly offending blog and I have to say I hope Google do comply with the court order. We could do with less of that kind of thing on the internet.

As for the freedom of speech and expression, we are allowed to say what we think, that is not a problem, however we are not allowed to present lies as fact - that is libel (written) or slander (spoken) and is illegal.

An example:

"In my opinion Joe Blogs is incompetent and could not pass an IQ test"
This is fine, covered under freedom of speach, as it presents my opinion only.

"Joe Blogs is incompetent and failed an IQ test"
This constitutes libel as I am presenting the statement as a fact, unless it happens to be true in which case it is fine.


For more examples carefully read some tabloid newspapers (like The Sun or Daily Star); they are masters at appearing to present opinion and gossip as fact whilst covering themselves against lawsuits.
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I hope they fight it tooth and nail. Or simply outright refuse to give up the data. The Aussies can impose penalties in the form of cash which Google would most likely just pay or restrict their service in Australia. Either way, Google should be able to weather this. They're freaking serious about their privacy.

Australia is going insane too, no longer supporting them now.
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If this is libelous then half the websites on the internet are. The last thing we need are internet police patrolling every website of the world... What would be done of sites like "The Onion?" Every humor site would be shut down. Enjoy the lock down of your freedoms if you agree with this sort of thing.
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Australia is going insane too, no longer supporting them now.

How did you support Australia before?
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post #16 of 50
I thougth Defamation of Character was not allowed if you are specifically telling employers not to hrie the guy for X reason, or renters to not rent to the person, etc. etc.

Not justy blogging on an open website.
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If this is libelous then half the websites on the internet are. The last thing we need are internet police patrolling every website of the world... What would be done of sites like "The Onion?" Every humor site would be shut down. Enjoy the lock down of your freedoms if you agree with this sort of thing.
Are you seriously comparing actual defamation with satirical websites?
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I think they should tell Australia that if they don't behave they'll simply unplug them from the internet thumb.gif
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Privacy is all well and good, and the wonderful about being allowed to speak your mind is that everyone immediately knows who the asshats are.
BUT!
Privacy while breaking the law is not a right im willing to defend.

I mean, im all in favor of a free internet, but I dont think that means we all can just run rampant and do what we want without regard for other people.
Should someone who distributes child pornography online not be held accountable because he is doing it online?
Because I dont see much of a difference in practice between allowing defamation like that to happen online and allowing Child Pornography to be distributed here in the US online.
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If this is libelous then half the websites on the internet are. The last thing we need are internet police patrolling every website of the world...

If someone wrote these things in a book or a newspaper they would be sued.

If someone said these things on TV or the radio, they would be sued.

If somone said these things in a public place, and you could prove it, they would be sued.

Why should the internet be any different?
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What would be done of sites like "The Onion?" Every humor site would be shut down. Enjoy the lock down of your freedoms if you agree with this sort of thing.

Satire != defamation.

And what lock down of freedoms? We are not, and should not be, free to break the law in the first place.
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