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Well...I disagree. Remember when the market price of AMD S939 went way way down? The X2 3800+ nearly went to $100, and now it's back up to $150.
Yep, because they couldn't sustain that price. AMD was literally losing money.
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Yep, because they couldn't sustain that price. AMD was literally losing money.
Well i doubt they were losing money off of them, but they wernt making the money they wanted, or at least retailers wernt.

It cant cost more than $100 to make a dual core. Processors are basically all material costs.
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The Cell is the same size as the X2, and it costs 150 bucks to make at a minimum. I'll give AMD 70 bucks because they get decent yields. After packaging and shipping, maybe they make 5 bucks per processor.
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The Cell is the same size as the X2, and it costs 150 bucks to make at a minimum. I'll give AMD 70 bucks because they get decent yields. After packaging and shipping, maybe they make 5 bucks per processor.
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The Cell is the same size as the X2, and it costs 150 bucks to make at a minimum. I'll give AMD 70 bucks because they get decent yields. After packaging and shipping, maybe they make 5 bucks per processor.
You couldn't possibly know this data, or make an accurate guess.
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AMD X2: "Approximate Die Size: 199mm2"
Cell BE: "evin Krewell revealed that the production version of the CELL processor will have a die size of 235 mm2"

http://www.techwarelabs.com/reviews/.../index_2.shtml
http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cf...WT072405191325

Pricing on the PS3 by iSuppli had the Cell costing anywhere from 150-230 dollars.

http://news.com.com/PlayStation+3+co...3-6042226.html
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You couldn't possibly know this data, or make an accurate guess.
Maybe watching newegg prices over a couple of weeks? I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just curious to see how much it costs to make a CPU.
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Thats a 35mm2 difference... Its flawed logic as well, as the Cell is much more complex.

Edit: Moots, were talking how much it takes to make a processors, not the MSRP.

Like I said though, with processors its basically all material costs (im sure hrnygoat could elaborate), along with Cell suffers from yield problems that jack up the price.
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I think I heard Intel saying somewhere that it costs about $60 for them to produce a CPU.
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Thats a 35mm2 difference... Its flawed logic as well, as the Cell is much more complex.

Edit: Moots, were talking how much it takes to make a processors, not the MSRP.

Like I said though, with processors its basically all material costs (im sure hrnygoat could elaborate), along with Cell suffers from yield problems that jack up the price.
The complexity of the design has nothing to do with production price. Only RnD. Now, I did give AMD like...80 dollars difference. I think that's fair. The reality is that AMD can't sell processors for 100 dollars. They just can't.
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