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The complexity of the design has nothing to do with production price. Only RnD. Now, I did give AMD like...80 dollars difference. I think that's fair. The reality is that AMD can't sell processors for 100 dollars. They just can't.
Oh, im sure they can. I think people underestimate AMD. Its not like AMD isnt willing to take $10 profits for market share, Intel did that to gain the market share to where its at today.

Also, now, is that cell price for the processor, or production costs? Theres a difference.
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Oh, im sure they can. I think people underestimate AMD. Its not like AMD isnt willing to take $10 profits for market share, Intel did that to gain the market share to where its at today.

Also, now, is that cell price for the processor, or production costs? Theres a difference.
I'm sure it's pallet price. I'm not entirely sure. All I know is that Sony bought a lot, so it's probably not way over production cost.
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The CELL is gonna be much more expensive, due to larger die size and very poor yeilds.
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Do you understand how much Intel pays for marketing? 1 Billion USD so far in C2D marketing alone. That will drive up costs...
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Do you understand how much Intel pays for marketing? 1 Billion USD so far in C2D marketing alone. That will drive up costs...
It seems kinda of silly for the most dominate company in a market to advertise when people seem to not know, or remember AMD.
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It seems kinda of silly for the most dominate company in a market to advertise when people seem to not know, or remember AMD.
Marketing is a complex subject, I don't get most of it, but companies seem to think their money is well invested.
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Marketing is a complex subject, I don't get most of it, but companies seem to think their money is well invested.
Yeah.. If anything I would think AMD would be marketing.. I guess it is pretty complex.
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Yeah.. If anything I would think AMD would be marketing.. I guess it is pretty complex.
They do, just not tv ads. I've seen a couple gaint ads in airports...but thats about it :/
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Very likely, but I still think if Carbon Nanotubes come around then we will see insanely glocked single cores that are multithreaded becoming prevalent. But who knows when the tech will progress enough for that.
i bet you'll see nanotubes much quicker than you think, it may only be possible to go lower than 22 nm with nanotubes/non-silicon matter, i bet by 2012 CPUs will be very very differnt than what we are running today.

but the real fact is we are DAYS away from 2007 yet 98% of programs are still being writting for single-core CPUs..yet quad-cores are about to roll off the line. having 4/8/32/80 cores does ZERO good if you still running games that are written for single core CPUs. I do think by 2008 ALL games released for PC will be supporting multi-core, thought it might not be till late 2008 that it is a REQ to have multi-core to play. once games reach the stage where dual/quad cores are a REQ to run, thats when we'll start getting really amazing games i cant even dream of a game that would REQ a quad-core(3.0Ghz+) 2 Gig DDR2, dual DX10 video cards...and that just REQs :-) that would be an amazing game, shame it wont be till late 2008/2009 till it happeneds.
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i bet you'll see nanotubes much quicker than you think, it may only be possible to go lower than 22 nm with nanotubes/non-silicon matter, i bet by 2012 CPUs will be very very differnt than what we are running today.

but the real fact is we are DAYS away from 2007 yet 98% of programs are still being writting for single-core CPUs..yet quad-cores are about to roll off the line. having 4/8/32/80 cores does ZERO good if you still running games that are written for single core CPUs. I do think by 2008 ALL games released for PC will be supporting multi-core, thought it might not be till late 2008 that it is a REQ to have multi-core to play. once games reach the stage where dual/quad cores are a REQ to run, thats when we'll start getting really amazing games i cant even dream of a game that would REQ a quad-core(3.0Ghz+) 2 Gig DDR2, dual DX10 video cards...and that just REQs :-) that would be an amazing game, shame it wont be till late 2008/2009 till it happeneds.

I was actually thinking around 2011, which is still a long time for me .
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