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Looks like the intel fanboys are still polishing their guns. The 6700 isnt gonna price drop by the end of what, this year? Not to a point where its below $1000. For $600 you can get 2.6 ghz 4x4 processors, Thats $900 less than the X6700 currently and less than the X6800. And I bet in most apps youll get more performance than the X6800.

Price people, price.

But simply saying it sucks isnt fair, or even correct. If it sucks so much, why does it remain competative and beat the Kentsfield in some apps, even games? Is it because Kentsfield sucks too? No.

Edit: He was talking about the AMD's being dual core and dual processor, and saying he was impressed on how good they scaled. Yes, AMD's have always scaled better, and Direct Connect makes it only better, which is what 4x4 uses.
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The first time I was sceptically how these conections between the the 2 sockets work! In my eyes it work well! FX-74 is K8 based so the 3GHz with 9Ops/cycle in 4 cores are close to the 2.66GHz with 12 Ops/cycle in 4 cores!
So your saying a Pentium D 965 works very well because its 3.73GHz and 6 ops/cycle is close to an FX-60 with 2.6GHz and 9 ops/cycle?

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Looks like the intel fanboys are still polishing their guns. The 6700 isnt gonna price drop by the end of what, this year? Not to a point where its below $1000. For $600 you can get 2.6 ghz 4x4 processors, Thats $900 less than the X6700 currently and less than the X6800. And I bet in most apps youll get more performance than the X6800.

Price people, price.

But simply saying it sucks isnt fair, or even correct. If it sucks so much, why does it remain competative and beat the Kentsfield in some apps, even games? Is it because Kentsfield sucks too? No.
Any price difference will quickly be nullified in by the differences in electric bills.
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hmmm interesting read. A little hard to read though but o well. I will still wait for more results before making a final decision on this versus qx6700
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Even so, AMD has much more aggressive power management than Intel processors. So for an accurate comparison there needs to be more benchmarks, im betting the power consumption will be very similar to Intel's, since AMD can switch off unnecessary cores, and dynamically underclock cores to lower power consumption.

Edit: Heck, if power consumption truly mattered to people, then people would have stopped buying Pentium4's A LONG time ago
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Looks like the intel fanboys are still polishing their guns. The 6700 isnt gonna price drop by the end of what, this year? Not to a point where its below $1000. For $600 you can get 2.6 ghz 4x4 processors, Thats $900 less than the X6700 currently and less than the X6800. And I bet in most apps youll get more performance than the X6800.

Price people, price.
You can't really find QX6700 anymore besides the EGG, because no one is paying the EGG's prices. You could find them for $1099 on a few sites a week or two ago but I guess they sold out. A far cry from $1500.
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Any price difference will quickly be nullified in by the differences in electric bills.
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Looks like the intel fanboys are still polishing their guns. The 6700 isnt gonna price drop by the end of what, this year? Not to a point where its below $1000. For $600 you can get 2.6 ghz 4x4 processors, Thats $900 less than the X6700 currently and less than the X6800. And I bet in most apps youll get more performance than the X6800.

Price people, price.

But simply saying it sucks isnt fair, or even correct. If it sucks so much, why does it remain competative and beat the Kentsfield in some apps, even games? Is it because Kentsfield sucks too? No.

Edit: He was talking about the AMD's being dual core and dual processor, and saying he was impressed on how good they scaled. Yes, AMD's have always scaled better, and Direct Connect makes it only better, which is what 4x4 uses.
Why would you want to compare AMD's FX-74 pallet price to the QX6700's street price. Keep your comparisons similar. Where is your pricing information for the FX-74 coming from. The QX6700 is $999, and in January the mainstream quad core systems will be released.

I would like to see how well these 4x4 systems overclock. I imagine they will put quite a strain on the PSU and simply will not clock very high at all (based on how well the FX-62 clocks). Sure 2 stock FX-74's can tango with a QX6700 at stock, but try overclocking them....

Not sure where you got your prices from. Looks like the FX-74 is the same price as the QX6700:

Quote:
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AMD is expected to launch Quad FX with three processors initially—the FX-74, FX-72 and FX-70. AMD is shipping the FX-74, FX-72 and FX-70 in pairs at $999, $799 and $599 respectively. This undercuts Intel’s recently released quad-core Kentsfield Core 2 Extreme QX6700 processor priced at $999.

PC Watch has also posted benchmarks of the upcoming Quad FX platform as well. The early numbers do not favor too well against Intel’s Core 2 Extreme QX6700 though.
Also note you will need 2 CPU cooler....

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Looks like the intel fanboys are still polishing their guns.
I think you are well known as being the largest fanboy on this forum.
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I'll wait for a better review closer to release date.
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Why would you want to compare AMD's FX-74 pallet price to the QX6700's street price. Keep your comparisons similar. Where is your pricing information for the FX-74 coming from. The QX6700 is $999, and in January the mainstream quad core systems will be released.

I would like to see how well these 4x4 systems overclock. I imagine they will put quite a strain on the PSU and simply will not clock very high at all (based on how well the FX-62 clocks). Sure 2 stock FX-74's can tango with a QX6700 at stock, but try overclocking them....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115011

$1499.

My pricing comes from what the article says... Plus AMD has said that for a pair of 4x4 processors it will be less than $1000.

And I think ill live with a title im placed with online... But lets stay on topic, shall we?
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