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Killer.
And you call yourself not a fanboy...haha, jk
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And you call yourself not a fanboy...haha, jk
The K8 was a killer though Maybe it's more like "k, verison (number goes here)".
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Just to be clear... the benchmarks were 8 AMD cores versus 4 C2D cores?
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post #54 of 285
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Just to be clear... the benchmarks were 8 AMD cores versus 4 C2D cores?
no, i'm pretty sure it's 4 vs. 4. i think.
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I have to say that I believe AMD will probably be about the same price as Intel, for the time being.

Everybody who wants to take advantage of 4x4 will need a new motherboard. Here and there I've read that these will retail for roughly 200$, which is an extrapolation of the current 2 socket motherboards on the market right now. The pair of AMD chips may come in less expensive than the QX6700, but then again decent overclocking motherboards can be had for as little as 120$ (case and point, the Gigabyte S3

What will really be interesting is how Intel will price their 2nd generation of quad core CPUs...

From my prospective, even those who bought AM2 thinking that they were going to be safe for a while probably won't be too happy with the new socket.

Intel on the other hand have announced the 965P chipset w/ socket T since june, and because it also worked with P4s and Pentium Ds' people might have bought the mobo back than and will be able to upgrade to bleeding edge tech just in time for the holidays.

Let's not forget that this is one websites report, and it wasn't terribly thorough either.
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It is highly unlikely that AMD will be able to compete price wise with Intel.

1. AMD has to make double the chips
2. AMD is using 90nm, Intel using 65nm
3. AMD is using 200mm waffer (some 300mm), Intel is using 300mm
4. Intel produces far more chips (costs less the more you make)

Just the simple fact that AMD has to pop out 2 chips for every one that Intel makes leads me to believe that 4 x 4 is going to be costly for AMD or the end user.
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Just the simple fact that AMD has to pop out 2 chips for every one that Intel makes leads me to believe that 4 x 4 is going to be costly for AMD or the end user.
That's what I was thinking. I'm guessing that CPUs are hard to manufacture too, the production yeilds can't be that high?

HOWEVER, presuably Intel has a diffrent manufacturing process for their Quad Core chips vs their Dual Core ones... as AMD only have dual core chips to produce.

It's tough, personally I don't get the point of having 2 CPUs in a PC when 1CPU can do a similar job.
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Comparing Intel street prices to AMD listed prices is an example of a biased arguement (a.k.a fanboy).

Another example of a bad biased argument would be comparing the cheapest 4x4 at $599 to the QX6700 at $999. Why not compare the cheapest 4x4 at $599 to the cheapest Quad Core at $455...

I don't know why you bring up server market and the mobile market, or even the past. Is this an attempt to change the subject? We all know how popular Core 2 Duo is. I see able 5 Core 2 Duo commercials per day. I have never seen a AMD commercial. This translates in C2D sales.

I am sure every guy in America recognizes this slogan:

"Introducing Core 2 Duo, the World Best Processors."

when you slab that on everyone's TVs with a cool picture of a processor die, you are sure to sell.
I didnt know that the MSRP was at $1000. All I knew is Newegg, who is renowned for being the best online retailer had it for $1500, it wasnt bias, it was WHAT I saw, and I saw it at $1500. Now where is Intel's cheapest Quad Core though?

And I've seen AMD commercial through Dell.

And I wasnt changing subject. People just generalize that oh, Core 2 is better. Im saying that it has to be broken down. Sure it may be better for desktop, but on server and mobile side AMD is gaining ground still, meaning that obviously AMD does NOT suck, and the K8 architecture isnt too outdated if it still sells.

Edit: Its not costly.. AMD is producing something they have been for years now. Now Intel is balancing Pentium production, Core 2 Duo, and Core 2 Quad, they may be Chipzilla, but they are gonna have to be really killing Pentium-4 production to pump out the Quad cores.
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I didnt know that the MSRP was at $1000. All I knew is Newegg, who is renowned for being the best online retailer had it for $1500, it wasnt bias, it was WHAT I saw, and I saw it at $1500. Now where is Intel's cheapest Quad Core though?

And I've seen AMD commercial through Dell.

And I wasnt changing subject. People just generalize that oh, Core 2 is better. Im saying that it has to be broken down. Sure it may be better for desktop, but on server and mobile side AMD is gaining ground still, meaning that obviously AMD does NOT suck, and the K8 architecture isnt too outdated if it still sells.

Edit: Its not costly.. AMD is producing something they have been for years now. Now Intel is balancing Pentium production, Core 2 Duo, and Core 2 Quad, they may be Chipzilla, but they are gonna have to be really killing Pentium-4 production to pump out the Quad cores.
Let me answer this. Where is 4x4? Why are you asking where the cheapest quad core is when 4x4 isn't available to the mass market? people generalize that Core 2 is better because it is. K8 was left in the dust by Core. Period.
Now, you want to bring up the mobile market? Merom and Yonah (Core 2 Duo, Core Duo) were always top performers in the mobile market, and are the fastest processors one can buy in a laptop. Sure, they may sell more because they are cheaper. But are we talking about price or performance in this discussion?
And as long as Intel produces all of the chips, why should one care? Pentium 4 production is going to stop, and so is S939, S754 A64 production.
 
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