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Ok maybe I wasnt understanding something but why get these over the H100i and H80i? They look thinner?

They're 140mm and 280mm based instead of 120mm and 240mm based. That's a huge amount of surface area, which means they can cool similarly (or better) at lower noise levels. The drawback being that you have to have room in your case for them.
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awesome news. H100i and X40 was close, but now corsair made one, so guess i'll buy the cheapest one tongue.gif
     
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post #113 of 193
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Gabe at Swiftech is a good dude but their product doesn't hreally compete directly with the sealed AIO coolers that we sell. It requires maintenance and filling, for one. Their performance might be better, but it's kind of bridging the gap between AIO coolers and full DIY watercooling. More like a competitor for Eisberg.

Of course it competes directly with your products. The H220 doesn't require anything more than the Hydros do from the end user. It just gives him more options (refillable, expandable) along with better performance, for the same price. Out-of-the-box it is a closed AIO watercooler ready to use just like the Hydros.

There isn't any difference between the H220 and your products regarding maintenance. The fact that you can't refill a Corsair Hydro cooler doesn't mean it isn't needed. I don't think you invented anything new here, it's just a water loop like all the rest, which ALL should undergo some kind of maintenance. Now, whether or not refilling is possible on a Corsair Hydro it is another subject. The fact that you don't allow the users to refill their loop doesn't mean the loop doesn't need it.

You could leave the H220 without maintenance and it would still work just like the Hydros. But it's not right, and since you have the option to refill, if you have the knowledge you do it. It comes sealed and pre-filled and ready to use, just like your AIOs, so if you are a beginner you can just run it maintenance free without any issues, other than a slight performance degradation which I guess also applies to your products.

So, uh... yeah. It is a competitor against all AIO water coolers of the same price range, so deal with it.
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2000 RPM on a 120mm fan is very, very different from that same RPM on a 140mm fan.

Actually the noise level of a 140mm fan at 2000 RPM is about the same as a 120mm fan at 2500-2700 RPM. Give or take a bit based on fan and housing design.
Yeah, that sounds about right. It's kind of surprising that you didn't put 2000 RPM fans on it, though, considering that you put 2700RPM fans on the H100i.
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Yeah, that sounds about right. It's kind of surprising that you didn't put 2000 RPM fans on it, though, considering that you put 2700RPM fans on the H100i.

Our goal was to make a product both quieter and cooler than the H80i and H100i, which the H90 and H110 are, respectively.
post #116 of 193
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Gabe at Swiftech is a good dude but their product doesn't hreally compete directly with the sealed AIO coolers that we sell. It requires maintenance and filling, for one. Their performance might be better, but it's kind of bridging the gap between AIO coolers and full DIY watercooling. More like a competitor for Eisberg.

It does not require maintenance and filling. It comes pre-filled, just like your CLC. And just like closed loops, it's maintenance free for several years. Unlike the Hydro series and the other CLCs on the market, it can be expanded and you can refill it once the liquid starts evaporating. To do that with the Hydro or any other, you'd void your warranty.

It's dramatically cheaper than the Eisberg though and outperforms it by a mile if you believe the early reviews. It does directly compete with the other CLCs out there since it's bracketed in the same price range and is zero maintenance and zero hassle to setup and install. Unlike the others, it is somewhat like a custom loop since you can mod it or expand it without issue...and without voiding the warranty if it's not an invasive mod.
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Of course it competes directly with your products. The H220 doesn't require anything more than the Hydros do from the end user. It just gives him more options (refillable, expandable) along with better performance, for the same price. Out-of-the-box it is a closed AIO watercooler ready to use just like the Hydros.

There isn't any difference between the H220 and your products regarding maintenance. The fact that you can't refill a Corsair Hydro cooler doesn't mean it isn't needed. I don't think you invented anything new here, it's just a water loop like all the rest, which ALL should undergo some kind of maintenance. Now, whether or not refilling is possible on a Corsair Hydro it is another subject. The fact that you don't allow the users to refill their loop doesn't mean the loop doesn't need it.

You could leave the H220 without maintenance and it would still work just like the Hydros. But it's not right, and since you have the option to refill, if you have the knowledge you do it. It comes sealed and pre-filled and ready to use, just like your AIOs, so if you are a beginner you can just run it maintenance free without any issues, other than a slight performance degradation which I guess also applies to your products.

So, uh... yeah. It is a competitor against all AIO water coolers of the same price range, so deal with it.

Uh, wow. Okay. Didn't mean to piss you off, man.

There's a reason our units are sealed and non-expandable. Any opening that can be user-accessed adds significant evaporation to the unit. If Gabe found a way around that, great, more power to him.

But in every test we've done with similar tubing and fill ports, we get a significant drop in lifespan due to evaporation.
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I'm so going to buy new CPU cooler every months. /sarcasm 

 
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Corsair had to step it up a notch since Kraken's release and the imminent Swiftech AIO!

Wonder if this will fit in 500R...dimensions?

edit: 20mm fan spacing...so it's not identical to the Krakens despite being made by Aestek
should fit the 500R okay then...can you confirm George?
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post #120 of 193
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Corsair had to step it up a notch since Kraken's release and the imminent Swiftech AIO!

Wonder if this will fit in 500R...dimensions?

edit: 20mm fan spacing...so it's not identical to the Krakens despite being made by Aestek
should fit the 500R okay then...can you confirm George?

He already did:
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They're a bit older design, and the mounting system is due to it being Asetek sourced instead of CoolIT sourced. We're working on that, too. The reason they took a while to design was because we wanted to standardize the 280 to be compatible with our cases. So the H110 has the same mounting holes as the 400R, 500R, C70, 550D, 650D, and 900D. Whether they'll fit in the 400R or 550D will depend on your motherboard, but they should fit with most boards, provided the 8pin CPU cable and VRM heatsink doesn't interfere.
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