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Starting to really think about returning my GTX 680, for ethical reasons:

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4892/nvidia_s_strong_arm_tactics_how_they_treat_gpu_partners_and_media/index.html

If what these guys are saying is true, then Nvidea really has lost my respect.

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Nvidia stopped sending them free samples (their prerogative - there are a lot of hardware websites), Tweaktown got pissed and started breaking NDA dates, and Nvidia leaned on partners to stop sharing early cards with them. Not sure how that makes Nvidia the bad guy. As the old saying goes - you mess with the bull, sometimes you get the horns. Would you expect Nvidia to do nothing while Tweaktown thumbs their nose at them and all the other partner websites that do follow NDA dates?
Edited by Forceman - 1/19/13 at 9:57pm
post #12 of 38

Stick with what you have. Pointless to side grade.

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post #13 of 38
Jen-Hsun has always been a little snooty with the deep east as a whole not just tweak town and honestly the way intel smacked around nvidia in the chipset market was far more deploreable than anything nvidia has done, ever. But back to the topic ...

As a long time nvidia user I enjoy my reference 7970 immensely. Build quality is far better than anything I've ever touched from nvidia and drivers have been surprisingly better than their reputation. At the very least you wont be dissapointed with the card. Money saved, better performance and beefier frame buffer are all positives. Power draw is a bit higher when overclocked than a 680 though, something to consider.
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I know it's a biased article, but all the reviews of nvidea product's that they have always been very fare and free of bias.

I only have 2 weeks to return to gtx 680, no onbard graphics so if I waited that long I would have a $2300 (subtracted vga from price) doorstop for 3 months. The 7970 will still be really good when the new gen comes out, then when price drop I'll add another one. Or just sell the current card when the time comes. Though I'm not really into extreme performance and always having the lastest thing. Thats why I'm going with the Gigabyte models, they have fantastic cooling and extra durable PCB and are extra reinforced. The longevity will be very good on them.

Right now even with my gtx 680 (that I clocked up to core boost: 1237mhz mem: 3504) it rips up BF3 at complete max settings at 1920x1080 on avg for campaign 88 fps for multiplayer 75 fps max 120 fps min 62fps heat never goes above 56c. I don't think I need much more then this, especially if I switch it out for the "supposedly" faster and more future proof 7970. And run dual cards later maybe even tri.

Also the pricing on the 7970s is looking really good right now, the Gigabyte 7970 windforce ghz Is on sale right now for $400.

What do you guys think I should do?
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post #15 of 38
do you like nvidia features like physx, adaptive sync. also the GTX 680 draws lesser power than HD 7970 especially when overclocked. so if you like the exclusive features stick with GTX 680.

also the Gigabyte HD 7970 OC (1 Ghz) seems to be voltage locked. so be careful which card you pick if you go for a HD 7970. ask in the HD 7900 users thread on which card to go for.
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post #16 of 38
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I have a gold rated 1200 Watt Power Supply, so power draw isn't a concern. But only a few days left, Is the 7970 Better then the 680? It's a yes or no question, and I'm on the fence.
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post #17 of 38
The cards stock for stock are very close. And at 1080p it's not going to be noticeable to switch from one to the other. The 7970 would give you more performance over the 608 if you had a surround setup or 2560x1440 monitor. You did mention you were thinking of adding more monitors so if this is going to be something that you plan on doing in the next month or so then go for it. But, as others have said with the release of the next generation cards to be announced in only 2-3 months it would be best to wait it out and see what's to be offered.
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post #18 of 38
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Unfortunately It's really pointless to wait, You will never catch up. I however have been thinking, and I saw a 7970 that caught my eye: Sapphire Radeon Vapor-X HD 7970 GHZ OC 6GB

http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-DL-DVI-I-SL-DVI-D-PCI-Express-11197-05-40G/dp/B0098HW0H2

The 6 gigs isn't what really interest me, it's more like icing on the cake. It has the stellar cooling, interesting features (temp display LEDs), only 80 dollars more (I'm willing to spend) and as all the reviewers demonstrated higher overclocking headroom then most cards out their. I really think Physics X is overrated (This coming from a Nvidea fanboy). Power draw isn't a concern, I have a 1200 watt Power supply. I'm also thing about Cross-firing these bad-boys one day. What do you guys think?
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Any fancy gizmo's on the card such as an lcd screen like you said in the previous post are pretty much just a waste imo. You may look at it once or twice when you first get it but then never again. Also, you can monitor all your temps live with a simple program such as Speedfan. Now I have a GTX680 in my current machine but the rig is being sold and I am building a new one. I will be going with the 7970's in this one for a few reasons.

1. Cost, why not save $70+ a card.
2. VRam, 2 GB is enough for most stuff now until you start getting into higher resolutions. The extra 1GB on the AMD card is just a little cushin for the future and since you said you don't care about having the latest and greatest and maybe adding more monitors to your set up the extra VRam *MAY* come in handy in the future.
3. Overclocking, The 680's right now can't be overclocked worth a **** on the stock PCB's where there is a lot of headroom on the AMD cards. I will personally be running a water loop so I will be able to benefit from this more than say on the stock cooler but overclocking can give you a bit more life out of the hardware before you need to upgrade.

Now the main question for you is, is it worth the wait to mail it in and wait etc etc. Personally, I would order the 7970, pay for it or put it in a cc and mail my 680 back at the same time. That way when you get the 680 refund it takes care of the cost of the 7970 and your only down for a day or two most with shipping. The $400.00 Gigabyte 7970 on Amazon is a good deal and will do all you need it to do (Unless you are looking into a custom water loop then you will need for find a card with a refrence pcb).

To sum it up, I would expect a 5-10% increase in performance after overclocking but that would only be something you would see only in benchmarks. If you could lay out the money to have the 2nd card on the way and not be out a computer for a few weeks I would send the GTX 680 back and buy the 7970, but if you can't lay out that money and would be with out your computer then by no means is it worth it.

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It looks like you're really itching for a 7970. Get a 7970 and be done with it.
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