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If you have ideas or preferences in the testing you want to see first, let me know. That's what I am looking for in this thread.
Thanks!
Martin

My overall feeling in general is that the web is full of reviews for the H80, H100, AI0, etc, but most of those reviews lack fan comparisons. They compare the stock fans vs stock fans for other coolers. Where I think you can add is various fan performances on those closed loops. The default response in almost any fan thread is "get Gentle Typhoons", so your ability to volt your AP15s to simulate the AP13 and AP14 will be a great resource. Running those against YLs and the Helix fans will also help alot. "X is what cheap fans can do, spend a little and get Y results, or stock and Z"

But overall I'm just glad you are here for any sort of custom loop testing. You are really the only reviewer with all the tools to do proper tests. With these new pumps, I'm really curious just how much they can handle. OC'd i7 + OC'd 7970/680 on just one 2x120? Really want to see that verified.
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My overall feeling in general is that the web is full of reviews for the H80, H100, AI0, etc, but most of those reviews lack fan comparisons. They compare the stock fans vs stock fans for other coolers. Where I think you can add is various fan performances on those closed loops. .

Yes there are tests out there, but it is hard to get a true comparison due to the fact that most tests are done independently on different hardware in different cases (or on a bench).

The fact that Martin will be doing a direct comparison under mostly controlled conditions and then adding additional variables (different fans and speeds) will be a truly invaluable thing for this community (and all those non-members that use OCN). I am sure that the results of this test will lower the amount of threads in the cooling section by a third biggrin.gif

One thing I would recommend as a variable for the kits is to install them as per the instructions of each (ie: the Corsair as an exhaust rather than intake), and then use your best judgement per kit to improve the performance.
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My overall feeling in general is that the web is full of reviews for the H80, H100, AI0, etc, but most of those reviews lack fan comparisons. They compare the stock fans vs stock fans for other coolers. Where I think you can add is various fan performances on those closed loops. The default response in almost any fan thread is "get Gentle Typhoons", so your ability to volt your AP15s to simulate the AP13 and AP14 will be a great resource. Running those against YLs and the Helix fans will also help alot. "X is what cheap fans can do, spend a little and get Y results, or stock and Z"

But overall I'm just glad you are here for any sort of custom loop testing. You are really the only reviewer with all the tools to do proper tests. With these new pumps, I'm really curious just how much they can handle. OC'd i7 + OC'd 7970/680 on just one 2x120? Really want to see that verified.

Love these ideas. I'd also like to see all kits tested with the same fans (AP-15 or similar) to get an idea of how well these things CAN perform, and compare that back to data that shows what the 100% stock configuration can do.

I also love the idea of completely overloading the coolers with a ridiculous amount of kit. It won't be easy on the non-modular CLCs, but maybe for the last test you can cut them open (like some here have done) to add additional blocks to see how they perform.
 
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Good ideas, testing all with the same fans and RPM is for sure in the plans. I also plan to cut open all at the end, I would not have personal closure until I did so..smile.gif

My only uncertainty is regarding testing GPU + CPU as I only have a 570gtx for video duties and it is still on air. I would have to find a VGA block sponsor, but it does interest me too. Would be nice to see if it's even possible or how bad temps would be with an AIO sealed pump running CPU + GPU with an added reservoir.
    
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Hi Martin. While I see you in an active thread I wanted to ask you a question since you are quite familiar on the XSPC kits. I am doing a CPU only loop for a 5ghz @ 1.5v 3570k which I am estimating at 260ish watts (correct me if I am off). I have read your reviews on the RS240, RS360, and the RX360 but cannot find much on the RX240. I wanted to try to estimate the performance off your three reviews and since the RX360 kit was only a bit better (12%?) than the RS360 kit due to not a large enough heat load I cannot accurately estimate the performance of the RX240 at about 1500rpm. I guess what I am getting at is that I am deciding between an RS360 and an RX240 for my HAF932. I am not gonna shell out for GPU cooling just yet and if I do I will upgrade pumps and rad accordingly. But in the spirit of keeping my cost under $200 and getting a large gain in cooling over my NH-D14 which would you find to be the better choice? I am going to use frozencpu with the OCN discount. It should be about $170 for the rs360 shipped and $185 for the RX240 shipped. Can you lend me some friendly advice?
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Hi Martin. While I see you in an active thread I wanted to ask you a question since you are quite familiar on the XSPC kits. I am doing a CPU only loop for a 5ghz @ 1.5v 3570k which I am estimating at 260ish watts (correct me if I am off). I have read your reviews on the RS240, RS360, and the RX360 but cannot find much on the RX240. I wanted to try to estimate the performance off your three reviews and since the RX360 kit was only a bit better (12%?) than the RS360 kit due to not a large enough heat load I cannot accurately estimate the performance of the RX240 at about 1500rpm. I guess what I am getting at is that I am deciding between an RS360 and an RX240 for my HAF932. I am not gonna shell out for GPU cooling just yet and if I do I will upgrade pumps and rad accordingly. But in the spirit of keeping my cost under $200 and getting a large gain in cooling over my NH-D14 which would you find to be the better choice? I am going to use frozencpu with the OCN discount. It should be about $170 for the rs360 shipped and $185 for the RX240 shipped. Can you lend me some friendly advice?

Without a doubt the RS360 where you are adding the extra fan section. As you mentioned the differences between slim and thick is usually only in the 10-15% neighborhood, where going from 240 to 360 is a 50% gain. Frontal area is the single largest factor when it comes to rad performance.
    
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Thank you! Your input is much appreciated!
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Hope Martinm210 is doing bench ATM cant wait.
Please do it in your case not caseless , caseless reviews are useless -_-
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if you are still deciding i think more info on the XSPC would be appreciated since it's actually a custom
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I am going to start in on the first trials this weekend. I have started some unboxing photos of the H220, but that is all so far. I will at least release a preview of sorts and maybe some test standard bits if they appear to work ok.

I plan to use my XSPC H2 full tower case as my test bench which is empty right now. This will allow a grilled type factory top install for radiator sizes of up to a quad radiator up top and a quad rad down on the bottom. This should at least represent performance in a top case install and have space for plenty of add ons for the modifed tests.

As with any new testing, I will probably have to run one product through to see how the setup works and adjust at least once before landing on a good method. The first phase will focus on installing the kit as it comes in the box. Part 2 will be moving the stock fans around, perhaps pull vs push. Part 3 will be modified fans but leaving the kit alone. Part 4 will be modifed loop stuff.

Nothing set yet other than wanting to test in a case and set up a bunch of sensor and noise meter to try and test them all equally.
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