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So, this question is probably beaten to death, but I have to ask anyways. I have been spending some time now trying to figure out which keyboard will replace my old dirty, nasty, awful, sticky, g15. I never had an issue with the keyboard, it worked great, however now that I am more intensively gaming the anti ghosting is getting a bit annoying (or lack there of). I am looking into a NKRO mechanical keyboard now, and have narrowed things down pretty good.

Features needed:
-Cherry Red, Brown
-Red backlight
-not HUGE
-under $150 US dollhairs

I have narrowed it down pretty much to the CMStorm QuickFire TK with cherry MX Red switches. Seems to have everything I like. I just wanted to get some feedback on its quality, and some feedback on anything else that may be in my realm that you all would recommend over this board.

I have also seen the Max Keyboard Durandal G1NL which looks like a nice board, but its full sized so leaves my desk space limited like it is now. I can deal with it if its that much better of a keyboard. I could deal with it for any keyboard if its quality far surpasses the CMStorm. I need something that will last a while, I don't plan on changing keyboards out once a year. Please don't recommend a Razer.

Thanks All!
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the quickfire is decent quality. Even "junk" quality mechanical keyboards are more than enough for any kind of normal use, and leaps and bounds above even the best membranes.
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I have a Maxkeyboard Nighthawk x9. I bought the x9 about 8 months ago and it died on me suddenly a month ago but Maxkeyboards RMA service is stellar. From the day I shipped it back to them it took them 11 days for me to receive the replacement and they also threw in custom LED's for my trouble.
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The TK has only 2 drawbacks as far as I'm concerned:
- nonstandard bottom row spacing, so it's no good for custom key caps
- Cherry stabilizers, which are considered mushy and less comfortable than Costar stabilizers

Other than that, it's quite sturdy and durable.
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You know, I'm fine with people being happy with what they like, But i have never seen nor found evidence that states Mechanical keyboards are better then membrane keyboards, Especialy since both feel the same to type on and membranes are quieter, Not to mention all my membrane keyboards work and have worked perfectly fine through literal hell.
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Originally Posted by Rayleyne View Post

You know, I'm fine with people being happy with what they like, But i have never seen nor found evidence that states Mechanical keyboards are better then membrane keyboards, Especialy since both feel the same to type on and membranes are quieter, Not to mention all my membrane keyboards work and have worked perfectly fine through literal hell.

Like all peripherals, hardware parts I suppose. Subjective choice and opinion
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Originally Posted by Rayleyne View Post

You know, I'm fine with people being happy with what they like, But i have never seen nor found evidence that states Mechanical keyboards are better then membrane keyboards, Especialy since both feel the same to type on and membranes are quieter, Not to mention all my membrane keyboards work and have worked perfectly fine through literal hell.

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Anyway, OP. Do make sure NKRO is supported on USB (not all of them who advertise NKRO do) if you lack a PS/2 port. If you do have a PS/2 port, plug your G15 in there (not sure if it works due to the LCD) and see if you still have "ghosting".
I'm not sure if I'm experiencing ghosting or not but I do know that PS/2 is miles smoother for gaming. On USB I sometimes experience like I'm stuck and have to press the button again. Never had that with PS/2. Unfortunately, I don't have a PS/2 anymore on my motherboard frown.gif

However, I doubt you need anti-ghosting or whatever cool name the marketing department gives it. I think it's just PS/2 being technically superior to USB for keyboards.

EDIT: Rayleyne, I (and many others) like the sound of mechanical keyboards. It's like the keyboard is applauding and cheering to me to type faster and faster ! tongue.gif
And in regards to both feeling the same? Not sure how you came to that conclusion but I feel a distinct difference between the different switch-types and membranes. Switches I've tried so far: Black, red and brown. My brother has reds, I have browns and I tried some blacks on a steelseries 6gv2. Currently looking for a good deal on a blue one because I think I'll like it very much.
But you're right, some people do not like mechies at all or don't find it worth the price so "try before you buy" is pretty much the best advice we can give.
Edited by Bloitz - 1/19/13 at 3:40am
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Ghosting has only ever occured to me on a keyboard that i spent 5 bucks on as a replacement that was needed at the time, Any DECENT keyboard be it mechanical or membrane can be run just fine in competitive gaming via usb >_> hello local area champion rayleyne using 6400 DPI mice and membrane keyboards and 16:9 res for CS tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by Rayleyne View Post

You know, I'm fine with people being happy with what they like, But i have never seen nor found evidence that states Mechanical keyboards are better then membrane keyboards, Especialy since both feel the same to type on and membranes are quieter, Not to mention all my membrane keyboards work and have worked perfectly fine through literal hell.

not to start a flame war but they do not feel the same, actuation pressure is different and the time when the key registers is different... thats like saying a mouse with teflon feet is the same as a mouse with no feet... sure it "feels" the same to an extent but a button (switch in this case) made of rubber and an actual solid plastic/metal button feel very different.

OP: i love my aivia osmium by gigabyte but it is blue backlighting. I kind of want a ducky shine /shine 2 and they seem to get some pretty good recommendations
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Ghosting has only ever occured to me on a keyboard that i spent 5 bucks on as a replacement that was needed at the time, Any DECENT keyboard be it mechanical or membrane can be run just fine in competitive gaming via usb >_> hello local area champion rayleyne using 6400 DPI mice and membrane keyboards and 16:9 res for CS tongue.gif

I agree that there's too much marketing nowadays pushing people to buy things they have no need for. But I can definitely say I experience hickups when using USB on my keyboard. I don't know it that's the ghosting they talk about or not. I just know it's there.
That's why I advised the OP to plug his G15 into a PS/2 port to see if it still occurs. If not, it might just be the same thing I'm experiencing. And buying a keyboard that doesn't support NKRO over USB won't change a thing.

EDIT: If I'm not mistaken (and please do correct me if I'm wrong) NKRO over USB uses some "things" to delay the signals if more than 6 keys are pressed so no inputs are lost but they're not instant like with PS/2 ( = true NKRO?). I'm pretty sure it was something like that. Regardless, I don't press 6 keys at once while gaming (AFAIK I only have 5 fingers on 1 hand) but I still get the "hickups".
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