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They're all relevant. I don't see how they're "Older"

League of Legends was released in 2011 and is updated weekly, CS:GO is less than a year old, Arkham City was released in 2011, Far Cry 3 is brand spanking new, and CS:S/TF2 are still played A LOT.
LoL = lol in terms of graphics
GS:GO : No amazing graphics either, small maps as well
FC3 n DX9 mode = basically an old game due to DX9

It's great that it can run those games but they're not exactly a good benchmark for current performance
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LoL = lol in terms of graphics
GS:GO : No amazing graphics either, small maps as well
FC3 n DX9 mode = basically an old game due to DX9

It's great that it can run those games but they're not exactly a good benchmark for current performance


I haven't personally tried running Far Cry 3 in DX11 because it won't activate on my computer because of some issues with UPlay. I can't run the Far Cry 3 DX11 file. But if you look around on the net, you'll find a consensus that Far Cry 3 does not utilize DX11 correctly on AMD cards with the current drivers. It results in a unrealistic frame drop. Similar situation with Arkham City.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/12/07/batman-arkham-city-pc-patched-dx-11-fixed-for-some/
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I haven't personally tried running Far Cry 3 in DX11 because it won't activate on my computer because of some issues with UPlay. I can't run the Far Cry 3 DX11 file. But if you look around on the net, you'll find a consensus that Far Cry 3 does not utilize DX11 correctly on AMD cards with the current drivers. It results in a unrealistic frame drop. Similar situation with Arkham City.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/12/07/batman-arkham-city-pc-patched-dx-11-fixed-for-some/

Well, regardless of bugs, there's a pretty big difference between DX9 and 11 .
I'm not trying to nullify your results with the A10-5800K because I personally think it's superb value for money and games like TF2, CS etc. are great fun. Graphics are overrated IMHO but I can't tell the OP he will enjoy playing the newest games @1080p with it on medium settings.

The main problem is: What games does the OP expect to play? What performance is he satisfied with?
If he buys the 5800K and then finds out he wants more then he "wasted" money on that integrated GPU. If he gets a discrete GPU + FX6300 / intel i3 then he'll have a much more able rig. For a lot more money though.
However, if he doesn't need the horsepower of the discrete + i3 / FX then he'll have "wasted" money on something he didn't need.

Either way, it depends on what the OP will play and how "futureproof" (if that even exists in the hardware-world) he wants to be.
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Well, regardless of bugs, there's a pretty big difference between DX9 and 11 .
I'm not trying to nullify your results with the A10-5800K because I personally think it's superb value for money and games like TF2, CS etc. are great fun. Graphics are overrated IMHO but I can't tell the OP he will enjoy playing the newest games @1080p with it on medium settings.

The main problem is: What games does the OP expect to play? What performance is he satisfied with?
If he buys the 5800K and then finds out he wants more then he "wasted" money on that integrated GPU. If he gets a discrete GPU + FX6300 / intel i3 then he'll have a much more able rig. For a lot more money though.
However, if he doesn't need the horsepower of the discrete + i3 / FX then he'll have "wasted" money on something he didn't need.

Either way, it depends on what the OP will play and how "futureproof" (if that even exists in the hardware-world) he wants to be.


Well, if he paid for a A10-5800K and was unsatisfied with the graphics, he could simply add an integrated card. It probably wouldn't become a bottleneck until he hit the 7870/660ti performance spectrum. He doesn't appear to have much money, so for $120 he could get great CPU performance (On par w/ Core i3 3220) and great integrated graphics performance as well.

Richlands around the corner thumb.gif and AMD claims a 40% performance increase. I'm thinking 20% realistically.
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Well, regardless of bugs, there's a pretty big difference between DX9 and 11 .
I'm not trying to nullify your results with the A10-5800K because I personally think it's superb value for money and games like TF2, CS etc. are great fun. Graphics are overrated IMHO but I can't tell the OP he will enjoy playing the newest games @1080p with it on medium settings.

The main problem is: What games does the OP expect to play? What performance is he satisfied with?
If he buys the 5800K and then finds out he wants more then he "wasted" money on that integrated GPU. If he gets a discrete GPU + FX6300 / intel i3 then he'll have a much more able rig. For a lot more money though.
However, if he doesn't need the horsepower of the discrete + i3 / FX then he'll have "wasted" money on something he didn't need.

Either way, it depends on what the OP will play and how "futureproof" (if that even exists in the hardware-world) he wants to be.


Well, if he paid for a A10-5800K and was unsatisfied with the graphics, he could simply add an integrated card. It probably wouldn't become a bottleneck until he hit the 7870/660ti performance spectrum. He doesn't appear to have much money, so for $120 he could get great CPU performance (On par w/ Core i3 3220) and great integrated graphics performance as well.

Richlands around the corner thumb.gif and AMD claims a 40% performance increase. I'm thinking 20% realistically.

Why not get a more modular system by getting a better cpu to begin with than getting the 5800k
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If I want to plays at 1080p is it good enough?

I may add a gpu later on the road

 

Yeah it'll work very well at lower settings thumb.gif

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LoL = lol in terms of graphics
GS:GO : No amazing graphics either, small maps as well
FC3 n DX9 mode = basically an old game due to DX9

It's great that it can run those games but they're not exactly a good benchmark for current performance

 

Actually I think that it is very relevant. You can game on a amd apu at 1080p.

 

Just keep in mind that we're talking about a 120$ chip here, not a 250$ i5 with a 450$ GPU. If OP wanted to play the latest games maxed out he wouldnt be asking about the 5800k.

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I have a second option
Should I get a laptop with I7 26 series and gtx 650m
Is it going to be better than a10 5800k for daily usage ?
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I have a second option
Should I get a laptop with I7 26 series and gtx 650m
Is it going to be better than a10 5800k for daily usage ?

The 650m might actually be worse than the 7660D. The i7 however would crush the 5800k. The big problem is who made the laptop and having to deal with the fact that any external monitor will be limited to 1920x1080 through the HDMI port due to the whole optimus setup.
     
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The 650M offers less graphics performance than the 7660D integrated into the A10-5800K, however the mobile Core i7 has more processing power. I would never personally invest loads of money into a "gaming" laptop because they tend to run hot, fail early, barely hold a charge and if you want to use an external screen, keyboard, and mouse for gaming you have to have the laptop laying there, open and running.

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Why not get a more modular system by getting a better cpu to begin with than getting the 5800k

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Because the A10-5800K is JUST AS POWERFUL as the Core i3 3220 PROCESSING WISE, has an integrated graphics cards 3X MORE POWERFUL than the HD4000 and costs the EXACT SAME AMOUNT. You'd literally have to drop $130 on a Core i3 + $70 on a dedicated 6670 to get the same graphical performance as the A10-5800K alone. Trust me, I physically run an A10-5800K on the DAILY - I am typing from it right now.

Let's not forget SATA 6GB/s + USB 3.0 built directly on the chipset (Doesn't have to rely on aftermarket controllers) and AMD Dual Graphics mode which lets you crossfire the iGPU in the A10-5800K with a dedicated 6670. Oh - and the fact that FM2 is supposed to be around for another 2.5 years, while LGA 1155 is being phased out of production as we speak.
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