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I've never said its bad for oc'ing,what I said is under air cooling and water cooling maximus v formula is performing better,it has a much more tweakable bios and stability wise it rocks.
Look man, pics links or it didn't happen.
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According to me despite being good on paper z77 up5 don't deliver as what it should,in fact 2friends of mine are using z77 up5 and 3 other friends are using maximus v formula and according to all of them maximus v formula is giving better stability and has helped them to achieve higher clocks under air over up5
If you aren't using the same processor in two setups, then you really can't compare them.
Edited by Art Vanelay - 1/19/13 at 2:20pm
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No Asus haters here. I just don't believe it clocks any better unless you prove it. They should at least be equal or very similar for air/water. Extra power of UP5 power delivery should be visible for LN2 which it is. You put stability as the only fact in defense of MVF to justify it's price tag.

I have a very good luck with my UD5H stability wise, and don't think "much better stability" of ROG boards for general use is the truth unless there is a proof.

If you are kind enough to test the same chip on both boards to prove that, then yes I can justify the extra cost of that board not only in comparison to UP5, but also OC Formula and MPower. Otherwise, there are lots of good Z77 boards to choose from which are cheaper and equally good and reliable.

Heck, why even bother with $200 boards when there is MPower and UD5H. Two solid midrange boards that do equally well job for general clocks. In the end, it's up to OP to justify the cost of a board. I don't know how you justify the price tag of MVF, but it's definitely not the way I do. Again nobody says MVF is bad since it's good. Heck, any board is good, but there is always a comparison when one loses to the other in something.
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I see but MVF was already my sort of last choice probably because it is the most expensive of the four I've listed, well to say the truth I was waiting some more fight between Asrock Z77 OC Formula vs MSI Z77 MPower, and the gigabyte UP5 is starting to grow on me biggrin.gif

One thing about MPower, every single Mpower board have to pass a "OC certified test:

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The difference was that this mainboard underwent an additional test after all the quality controls have been successfully passed. This wasn’t just a common power-on test, but an intense 24-hour stress test of an overclocked system in the famous Prime95 utility, which generates heavy complex loads. This stress-test doesn’t just target the operation, but also confirms the board’s overclocking potential and allows marking it as “OC Certified”.

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OC Performance means that all OC Certified tests are run at a 4.6GHz CPU speed, this simulates the high-end overclock range of today's 3rd Generation Intel Core CPUs. Stable Power is tested by running Prime95 for 24-hours in low airflow conditions. This ensures that the PWM is capable of supplying stable power to the CPU under extreme conditions.

BTW you still haven't mentioned where do you live, if you live in North America I would avoid ASUS because their RMA department have been dreadful lately.


The bad thing about Mpower is that you will not be able to OC with offset voltage, meaning that your voltage won't throttle when your CPU usage goes down.
It is my #2 recommendation behind UP5TH out of the the 4 boards you listed.
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No Asus haters here. I just don't believe it clocks any better unless you prove it. They should at least be equal or very similar for air/water. Extra power of UP5 power delivery should be visible for LN2 which it is. You put stability as the only fact in defense of MVF to justify it's price tag.

I have a very good luck with my UD5H stability wise, and don't think "much better stability" of ROG boards for general use is the truth unless there is a proof.

If you are kind enough to test the same chip on both boards to prove that, then yes I can justify the extra cost of that board not only in comparison to UP5, but also OC Formula and MPower. Otherwise, there are lots of good Z77 boards to choose from which are cheaper and equally good and reliable.

Heck, why even bother with $200 boards when there is MPower and UD5H. Two solid midrange boards that do equally well job for general clocks. In the end, it's up to OP to justify the cost of a board. I don't know how you justify the price tag of MVF, but it's definitely not the way I do. Again nobody says MVF is bad since it's good. Heck, any board is good, but there is always a comparison when one loses to the other in something.

The main thing I like about the Asus MVG (other ROG boards should work similar but I've only tried this one myself) is the way it handles memory overclocking. Cpu overclocking is pretty much the same as the other boards I've used, but the asus makes memory clocking seem easy.
Other boards can do it as well, but they do take more tweaking (at least the ones I've used).
    
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I got the memory part, but Aniket says that MVF is more stable in every way without actually providing a proof.
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The main thing I like about the Asus MVG (other ROG boards should work similar but I've only tried this one myself) is the way it handles memory overclocking. Cpu overclocking is pretty much the same as the other boards I've used, but the asus makes memory clocking seem easy.
Other boards can do it as well, but they do take more tweaking (at least the ones I've used).
Asus does tend to be the best in terms of memory stability, but I will never understand why everyone loves unbelievably high speed memory. It really doesn't increase the performance that much when you are running 2400+ memory.
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No Asus haters here. I just don't believe it clocks any better unless you prove it. They should at least be equal or very similar for air/water. Extra power of UP5 power delivery should be visible for LN2 which it is. You put stability as the only fact in defense of MVF to justify it's price tag.

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Heck, why even bother with $200 boards when there is MPower and UD5H. Two solid midrange boards that do equally well job for general clocks. In the end, it's up to OP to justify the cost of a board. I don't know how you justify the price tag of MVF, but it's definitely not the way I do. Again nobody says MVF is bad since it's good. Heck, any board is good, but there is always a comparison when one loses to the other in something.

The main thing I like about the Asus MVG (other ROG boards should work similar but I've only tried this one myself) is the way it handles memory overclocking. Cpu overclocking is pretty much the same as the other boards I've used, but the asus makes memory clocking seem easy.
Other boards can do it as well, but they do take more tweaking (at least the ones I've used).

Have to agree. Asus seems to usually have a slight edge with memory clocking. Gigabyte seems to have the edge in support. Depends what is important to the user...
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How ASRock and MSI do in terms of memory clocking? I guess ASRock has some Asus's experience?
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I was told to go with the gigabyte model. It doesn't really matter.
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How ASRock and MSI do in terms of memory clocking? I guess ASRock has some Asus's experience?
If you're only going for two sticks, it doesn't really matter; Asus and Asrock look like the best to have when going for 4 sticks.
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