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I couldn't find any other review covering SupremeFX on MVF. MVG got very nice score for audio on TPU. I can only assume that Asus messed up on MVF, or that particular board.
Might've been an anomalous review.
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thank you dexel

ill stick with the p8z77-v pro and save some $ for a vid card thumb.gif
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Well, right now, thunderbolt is pointless. It'll be a lot less pointless when they start coming out with things that can actually utilize it properly.
By the time they come out cheap you'll probably upgrade your system tongue.gif
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thank you dexel

ill stick with the p8z77-v pro and save some $ for a vid card thumb.gif
Well if you want to save money then go with msi z77 m-power and if you are stuck between m5f and z77 up5 then go with m5f.
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Alright thanks, I`ll stick with my Objective2 wink.gif
Guys leave out the msata / onboard audio / thunderbolt etc they are little differences, what matters is the internals, for example DeXel was kind enough to explain that Z77X-UP5 's VRM design and mosfet quality is superior to the other boards, but what else is better or worse than the other boards ?

ps: people dont talk or discuss only about the UP5 vs MVF don't forget the other boards too wink.gif
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Alright thanks, I`ll stick with my Objective2 wink.gif
Guys leave out the msata / onboard audio / thunderbolt etc they are little differences, what matters is the internals, for example DeXel was kind enough to explain that Z77X-UP5 's VRM design and mosfet quality is superior to the other boards, but what else is better or worse than the other boards ?

ps: people dont talk or discuss only about the UP5 vs MVF don't forget the other boards too wink.gif


You have yet to explain where you live, ASUS RMA service quality in India seems to be vastly different to in the US.

UP5 being a Ultradurable 5 board it have 2X Copper +Fiber Glass PCB for protection against humidity.

UP5 have more USB 3.0 than the other 3( 10 vs 6 or 8), but less SATA III(2 vs 4/6), if you use less than 2 SDD or less than 4 usb 3.0 devices none of this matters.

MPower and UP5 are standard ATX boards, MVF is an EATX which is wider, OC Forumula is also wider than a standard ATX which could cause cable management issues if you Case doesn't support EATX(they still have the same 9 mounting holes)
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post #67 of 146
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Alright thanks, I`ll stick with my Objective2 wink.gif
Guys leave out the msata / onboard audio / thunderbolt etc they are little differences, what matters is the internals, for example DeXel was kind enough to explain that Z77X-UP5 's VRM design and mosfet quality is superior to the other boards, but what else is better or worse than the other boards ?

ps: people dont talk or discuss only about the UP5 vs MVF don't forget the other boards too wink.gif
Well, there are PLX chips. If you want to have 3+ graphics cards in your system, you will get superior performance out of a motherboard with a PLX. The G1 Sniper 3 has a PLX. I'm not sure about any other boards in that price range with a PLX.

You could also go for a board with a good networking chip, like the G1 Sniper 3, but I'm not sure if that actually does anything.

There are also those features that boost USB 3.0 transfer rates.
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Well, there are PLX chips. If you want to have 3+ graphics cards in your system, you will get superior performance out of a motherboard with a PLX. The G1 Sniper 3 has a PLX. I'm not sure about any other boards in that price range with a PLX.

You could also go for a board with a good networking chip, like the G1 Sniper 3, but I'm not sure if that actually does anything.

There are also those features that boost USB 3.0 transfer rates.

AFAIK PLX also introduces latency so if you plan on running single Graphic cards you will be better off with a mobo without PLX chip like UP5/MPower, if your goal is to go for 3 cards on Ivy Bridge platform then get MVF/OC Formula/G.1 Sniper but In that case going X79/Sandy Bridge E would be a much wiser choice.
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AFAIK PLX also introduces latency so if you plan on runing <3 Graphic cards(biggrin.gif) you will be better off with a mobo without PLX chip like UP5/MPower, if your goal is to go for 3 cards on Ivy Bridge platform then get MVF/OC Formula/G.1 Sniper but In that case going X79/Sandy Bridge E would be a much wiser choice.
Yeah, that's not true. There is a benefit to PLX chips in a multi GPU config, even when just running SLI. It's only when running single single GPUs that a Directly connected PLX will decrease the performance.
https://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=708539

The effect of this is probably greatest if you are doing 3+ GPUs that can only do PCIe 2.0 or have a Sandy bridge chip. The PLX 8747 is backwards compatible, right?
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Yeah, that's not true. There is a benefit to PLX chips in a multi GPU config, even when just running SLI. It's only when running single single GPUs that a Directly connected PLX will decrease the performance.
https://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=708539

The effect of this is probably greatest if you are doing 3+ GPUs that can only do PCIe 2.0 or have a Sandy bridge chip. The PLX 8747 is backwards compatible, right?

Corrected my original post to say "single" instead of "<3". But just as you said you only really see the benefit of PLX at triple since 8X/8X in 3.0 doesn't significantly bottleneck dual card set ups.

BTW, you asked DeXel about why he knows that much about Motherboard VRMs a few page back, now you can know as much as he does : Sins hardware VRM list
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