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Even if you have to develop for OS X and iOS are you really going to need something more powerful then a Mac mini? The fact that you argue that a AIO is great development platform just shows in what sorry state the current Mac Pro line up is in.

Why limit yourself to the bare essentials?

and while you imply the mac mini is perfectly suited, why does a Mac Pro even matter for development when a mac mini can do it?
 
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Because you see no use for it personally doesnt mean everyone else doesnt. Why is OCN so egocentric? A small foot print AIO has its uses.

Please enlighten me on what it can do better than a regular desktop.
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LOL at the last line. that's great and just proves my point. Remove your desktop from under the desk and what is it now? Just a monitor. Have fun staring at the "check video connection". For something as thin as your monitor an iMac has as lot more functionality. rolleyes.gif Am I catering to your ego enough?

And whats the point of having a desktop as thin as your monitor? As I said, I can have a fully custom rig 10x the size of this hidden away in some corner or by the side my computer desk, completely out of my site. All AIOs are just plain useless.
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post #233 of 340
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In other words, you're calling me an idiot for buying an Apple computer? I'm sorry, but I've been completely aware of the decisions I've made when I've bought my Apple computers.
Please, define serious work. I'm a programmer. A Mac is required to develop OS X and iOS apps. How is that not serious?
Besides, either you'll have to compare it to other AIO, or not compare them at all. Simple as that. You simply can't compare an iMac to a custom built desktop…
You're paying $2200 for a workstation, which can perfectly fine be used as a workstation. No issues. If it weren't safe to run it at that high temperatures, Apple wouldn't have done it that way.
It's a good computer. A really good one. If you're saying iMacs are bad, you're honestly plain stupid. A 3770 paired with a 680XM is "bad"? I'm sorry, your balant fanboyism is pathetic.

No. I am saying that thin overpriced piece of crap is just that; an overpriced piece of crap.

And yes, a 3770 paired with a 680 in a small space that runs them at excessive temperatures is bad. Just because Apple says it's okay doesn't mean it is. They are also the same company that said people were holding their phones "wrong." When the issue was the phone's antenna was poorly designed garbage. So, I'm not going to take their "word for it."

Have fun with your fashion statement. thumb.gif
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post #234 of 340
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Why limit yourself to the bare essentials?

and while you imply the mac mini is perfectly suited, why does a Mac Pro even matter for development when a mac mini can do it?

If you need to do stuff for only OS X and iOS then the Mac Mini can do that. However if you actually need to do development in general say running multiple databases, virtual machines, debugging multiple instances of code then a Mac mini is not going to cut it.
    
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Please enlighten me on what it can do better than a regular desktop.
And whats the point of having a desktop as thin as your monitor? As I said, I can have a fully custom rig 10x the size of this hidden away in some corner or by the side my computer desk, completely out of my site. All AIOs are just plain useless.

I would say the #1 commercial application for an AIO like an iMac is a kiosk or something like a library (the Apple store demos are a good example). No need to lock down a physical box that is separate from the monitor, just lock down the monitor.

Not everyone has the same desk as you or the same available space. Egocentric much? Let me be for a bit: as an overseer nearly 200 Small Form Factor HP DC7800s in cubicles, space comes at a premium. I also dont want to carry a full size tower (or even a mid tower) back to the office for in depth diagnosis, and many people that work in IT would probably agree. It's also nice not having to crouch down to plug in the myriad of cables on the floor.

So you have no use for AIOs, i wont bother arguing with your ignorance.
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Originally Posted by Bit_reaper View Post

If you need to do stuff for only OS X and iOS then the Mac Mini can do that. However if you actually need to do development in general say running multiple databases, virtual machines, debugging multiple instances of code then a Mac mini is not going to cut it.

True this. I will agree with you that the Mac Pro is in desperate need of a refresh. Rumor has it that it's coming, but who knows when.
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Umm, it may be within spec, but running at 97c is by far not the definition of cool. And someone inform the testers that nobody uses farenheit for pc temps.

I think that what you meant to say is that no one should use Fahrenheit for ANYTHING. Celsius is the proper Temp measure for anything.
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Look at all the Apple haters here. How come no one was complaining with other AIO for their high temps? Did Steve Jobs burn your house down? rolleyes.gif

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5866/dell-xps-one-2710-review-the-premium-allinone/4

i7 3770S: 97C
GT640M: 77C


No need to argue about this. Temps are perfectly acceptable. The problem is that folks at OCN can't see pass their hate, they've become so blinded by their stupidity. No other manufacturers offer GTX680MX + 1TB/3TB hybrid drives in an AIO. People also are forgetting to realize that the monitor itself is $1000, in line with U2711/U2713H.
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Look at all the Apple haters here. How come no one was complaining with other AIO for their high temps? Did Steve Jobs burn your house down? rolleyes.gif


http://www.anandtech.com/show/5866/dell-xps-one-2710-review-the-premium-allinone/4

Yeah but that's justifiable because it doesn't cost $2,200 rolleyes.gif
    
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Right. But most people will argue against it as they see cutting the power strongly for ascetics is dumb. I am one of them.

Then don't buy one lol.
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Look at all the Apple haters here. How come no one was complaining with other AIO for their high temps? Did Steve Jobs burn your house down? rolleyes.gif

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5866/dell-xps-one-2710-review-the-premium-allinone/4

I wouldn't recommend or buy that either.

I just searched this Hardware News forum, and that article was never even posted here.

Steelbom just has a need to post Apple related news here, and they aren't well received since it doesn't suit the theme of "The Pursuit of Performance" at Overclock.net. 99% of people here are interested in Overclocking, something no Mac computer allows you to do.
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