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Why do people complain about a $600 console price tag. It may have been high when the PS3 came out but that was a totally different time. Now people spend that much on things like iPad's, 500-600 bucks for a perineum device is a given these days. Really only kids and the lower class will have a problem with buying the console.
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Why do people complain about a $600 console price tag.

Because it's a lot of money for a console.

Cheap computers, and tablets, can generally do a lot more than a game console.
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Because it's a lot of money for a console.

Cheap computers, and tablets, can generally do a lot more than a game console.

People will spend 600 bucks on a flagship video card, 1000+ on a ultra book, 500+ on a tablet, 1000+ on a TV, yet they are only going to spend 300 bucks on a brand new console? Trust me People don't mind now that they are paying a decent chunk for a brand new console that probably cost more to make then what they sell it for. And really the console will probably be around 500 in anything, as the total cost must be around there with these specs.

Also because both the new consoles have x86 we may actually see a windows 8 upgrade built right into the next xbox at some time point. Even at 120 bucks the OS would make it a killer as a HTPC/SteamBox indy/casual type of unit. And we already know windows can do more then any tablet could ever dream of. Also considering Tablets have yet to reach 360/ps3 level of graphics i'm sure they pose no threat to next gen consoles as far as gaming goes. The new ARM cortex a15 which is only in a few devices finally slightly passed atom in performance, Atom a chip from 08 that was pretty slow when it was released. Next Gen Consoles will have a decent amount of extra power and software to go along with it, cheap computer won't have GPU's that can match the next gen consoles for years and Most tablets are mostly just play toys.
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People will spend 600 bucks on a flagship video card, 1000+ on a ultra book, 500+ on a tablet, 1000+ on a TV, yet they are only going to spend 300 bucks on a brand new console? Trust me People don't mind now that they are paying a decent chunk for a brand new console that probably cost more to make then what they sell it for. And really the console will probably be around 500 in anything, as the total cost must be around there with these specs.

Also because both the new consoles have x86 we may actually see a windows 8 upgrade built right into the next xbox at some time point. Even at 120 bucks the OS would make it a killer as a HTPC/SteamBox indy/casual type of unit. And we already know windows can do more then any tablet could ever dream of. Also considering Tablets have yet to reach 360/ps3 level of graphics i'm sure they pose no threat to next gen consoles as far as gaming goes. The new ARM cortex a15 which is only in a few devices finally slightly passed atom in performance, Atom a chip from 08 that was pretty slow when it was released. Next Gen Consoles will have a decent amount of extra power and software to go along with it, cheap computer won't have GPU's that can match the next gen consoles for years and Most tablets are mostly just play toys.

I think you should look at this differently:

A SMALL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE will pay $600 for a flagship video card

THE MAJORITY WILL NOT pay that much.

Just because SOME people will pay very high prices for something top of the line doesn't mean everyone or event he majority feels that way. Some people will pay 500 for a tablet, but now they've had their focused shifted to 7 inch tablets which cost less than that. And people spend 1000 plus on a TV because TVs have always been around that price. Here take a look at this



And for the sake of normalization here's adjusted for inflation



Notice, the most popular consoles of all time (PS2, NES, SNES, Genesis, PS1, 64, and I guess Wii) have been lower than $450.
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Are you really such a loser that you have to storm the internet and try to attack people with your ridiculous logic? Seriously, like on every freakin page I have to see your brain dead posts of how you disagree with everyone and how you're right. Take a breather and walk outside for five minutes. Once your eyes have adjusted to the sunlight you'll see what a pain in the ass you have been to this thread.

Yes because correcting wrong information is attacking people rolleyes.gif

If people actually knew what they're talking about, researched and didn't talk none sense then the internet would be a much nicer place.

People give out wrong information, I correct them and help them to learn about things as best I can.

If you don't like that then I would be more then happy to suggest some other PC forums for you to use.

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I think you should look at this differently:

A SMALL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE will pay $600 for a flagship video card

THE MAJORITY WILL NOT pay that much.

Just because SOME people will pay very high prices for something top of the line doesn't mean everyone or event he majority feels that way. Some people will pay 500 for a tablet, but now they've had their focused shifted to 7 inch tablets which cost less than that. And people spend 1000 plus on a TV because TVs have always been around that price. Here take a look at this

And for the sake of normalization here's adjusted for inflation

Notice, the most popular consoles of all time (PS2, NES, SNES, Genesis, PS1, 64, and I guess Wii) have been lower than $450.

This. Even 'enthusiasts' only pick up a flagship card as their budget allows. If the idea that no one has a problem with it was right, you wouldn't see people on this site running around with 7870s and 660tis. Ironicly, that is only part of it.

Perhaps some of the people thinking this way are too young to remember the PS3 release, when everyone cried about the cost. A large amount of console gamers do so because it is far more budget appropriate than buying a low end gaming rig. To many people, games look better and are much more hassle free on a console.

In addition, underage gamers are a huge part of that segment. Few kids under the age of 18 can justify a $1000 computer to their parents for gaming. In fact, if console A comes out costing $350, and console B comes out costing $600, which do you think will be a better sale to the parents? As a parent myself, I could honestly say that if I were not a gamer myself, it would be console A, or nothing at all.

Another trend I see for that same young age group is that they already have smart phones. Most are getting tablets now. Simple logic tells you the majority don't have a use for a PC, and in many cases, a laptop either. Consoles offer things for the wider market that only tech-savy people know can be done on a PC. The next generation, IMO, will put consoles into more of an HTPC role. This is a good thing for everyone, IMO.
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This is why I think it'll be running Windows 8 in a cut down form.

Windows 8, as is, not cut down in any way, doesn't use anywhere near 4GiB of memory by itself (outside of the standard caching stuff).

If the XBox 720 needs 3-4GiB dedicated to it's OS, it's got to be doing something fairly unconventional with it.

That doesn't mean it's Windows 8, and having 3-4GB dedicated doesn't mean all of that is going to the OS itself, I have a feeling MS want to ensure there's always enough RAM for the OS, maybe certain things are pre-loaded into the memory on start up for quicker boot times, like a much more controlled prefetch which MS will tune down to 2GB dedicated for the OS and that later down the track, or as has been said, extra Kinect functions.

Maybe it's unable to be used by developers because MS want to have future versions of Windows as updates for it, but don't know the RAM requirements yet and just want to ensure that if they need that much it's there.
    
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The two system almost seem identical now with the current rumors.

That's a good thing...I'm tired of ****ty ports that the PS3 suffered in its former years
     
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this sounds really cool tbh i have always preferred PC gaming Going from a PlayStation 2 and a GameCube to a x6800 and a Geforce 8800 GTX was mind blowing but still there are some games that i really enjoy on consoles single player games like God Of War/uncharted/metal gear solid series infamous all PlayStation exclusives just as Gears Of War/halo/forza motorsport are only on xbox(yes i know about gears 1 and halo 1&2) i wont be buying a PlayStation 4 Or nextbox untill there is that game to have on it.and as stated by many it will be better for us as in the pc gaming community we should be hoping that they have a X79 extreme Ivy bridge cpu at 5.2GHz and 4 of these new geforce titans i am hearing about i know that will not happen but remember the better they are the more reason or Pc's will be put to test and stop being under used


I am sorry i know my typing is sloppy forgive me 1am here and my almost 2 year old has very sick so i haven't had much sleep.
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7970M i believe is not equivalent to a 570.
    
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