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GTA

What? GTA was never exclusive, it's may have been coming out earlier on the PS2 but that was a deal with Sony only for the PS2, even if the exclusivity thing still made sense they'd still be not doing that.
    
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I cannot play persona, Ni no kuni, tales of or even atelier series on my pc so sad....
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I cannot play persona, Ni no kuni, tales of or even atelier series on my pc so sad....
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This isn't conjecture, it has already started happening. Games that were once console exclusives (GTA, FF, RE, MGS for example) have gone multi-platform in order to increase revenue. Pretty much the only "Exclusives" these days are games created in-house or games released via XBL/PSN.

Also, I would imagine quite a few would argue that exclusives have never been less important than they are now. Consoles used to be purchased to play video games, and that was it. Exclusives mattered back then. Now though, with the vast majority of AAA titles being multi-platform and a near parity of quality between games released on both systems gamers are looking at consoles and taking into consideration more and more what each console can do beyond playing video games. Whether that is PS+, XBL, Kinect, Netflix, Blu-Ray, etc. Don't get me wrong, exclusives still move consoles, but they are no longer the sole factor a person takes in consideration when picking out a console.

This is quite true. Honestly I hope one of these companies (MS, Sony) start focusing on the games and leaves (some of) the gimmicks behind.
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7970M i believe is not equivalent to a 570.

Notebookcheck puts it a little bit higher than a GTX 570
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This isn't conjecture, it has already started happening. Games that were once console exclusives (GTA, FF, RE, MGS for example) have gone multi-platform in order to increase revenue. Pretty much the only "Exclusives" these days are games created in-house or games released via XBL/PSN.

I was referring to games like Uncharted, Grand Turismo, Killzone, God of War, Halo, Gears of War, Mario, Zelda... games that are produced by 1st or 2nd party studios.

MGS, GTA, R.E. and Final Fantasy have never been exclusives. They went from Nintendo, to Playstation, to PC, to XBOX... so no, it has not already started happening. Just because a game went unreleased on another platform does not mean it was contracted to be an exclusive for that console only...
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MGS, GTA, R.E. and Final Fantasy have never been exclusives. They went from Nintendo, to Playstation, to PC, to XBOX... so no, it has not already started happening. Just because a game went unreleased on another platform does not mean it was contracted to be an exclusive for that console only...

If a game isn't available on another platform whether or not it is contracted to be it is exclusive. Final Fantasy up until FFXIII was platform exclusive. If you wanted an NES era version of it you picked up an NES cart, in the SNES era it was an SNES cart (not a Genisis cart), PS era it was on the PS, PS2 era it was on the PS2, but now since FXIII you are seeing (and will continue to see) simultaneous releases across multiple platforms. The same has happened to MGS w/ Reveangance and ME w/ ME3. Companies that at one time were willing to release a product on a single platform (or grant a console a period of exclusivity) will no longer do so because they would be leaving money on the table. You still have first party exclusives and you always will, but the days of third party developers releasing AAA titles on a single platform are over.

I honestly don't think exclusives matter all that much anymore. For Gran Turismo there is Forza, for Zelda there is Ratchet and Clank, for Gears of War there is Killzone. Console makers don't depend as heavily on exclusives to move systems like they used to. Multimedia capabilities, new ways of interfacing and consuming content, online networks, etc. These are selling systems. Can't tell you how many people I have spoke to that picked up a 360 not because of exclusives, but because all of their friends game on XBL. Sure its anecdotal, but just one generation ago that wasn't even a consideration, and now it is a serious selling point.
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post #278 of 332
There's no question that's true but I also know a tonne of people that bought PS3's solely for God of War, and the Uncharted series. Exclusives are still a big part of consoles.

and I'm not really getting your comparison between, Zelda and Ratchet & Clank/Gears of War and Killzone. I dont think anyone that wants to play Zelda looks at Ratchet and Clank as an alternative.
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There's no question that's true but I also know a tonne of people that bought PS3's solely for God of War, and the Uncharted series. Exclusives are still a big part of consoles.

and I'm not really getting your comparison between, Zelda and Ratchet & Clank/Gears of War and Killzone. I dont think anyone that wants to play Zelda looks at Ratchet and Clank as an alternative.

Gears of War and Killzone probably wasn't the best anology, maybe Halo and Killzone would have been a better one? And you're right, if someone wants to play Zelda they aren't going to look at Ratchet and Clank as a substitute because what they want is Zelda. But if a person purchasing a console today is open to alternatives it is very likely that they will be able to find one on any given console. It's not like back in the PS era where if you wanted to play RPG's you *had* to purchase the Playstation because Final Fantasy was perennially a Playstation Exclusive title.

Like I said, exclusive titles will still sell consoles. I am not here trying to say they don't. They just aren't nearly as important as they used to be because consoles today have far more uses and capabilities than consoles of yesterday, and as such people are taking into consideration many more factors than just "what games can I get" when spending their dollars.
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That is true, I cant really argue with that. If I had to make a prediction though I'd say for this next gen, that the company that puts the focus back on the games is the one that's gonna win the console wars. I just cant see something like Netflix popping up again that's gonna help push this gen of consoles when most people can already do that with their current consoles. I also don't see Sony dropping the ball in terms of online services like they did with the PS3 (specifically early on). Sure things like a new Kinect will sell consoles I don't think there's gonna be such a gap between either console in any specific category. I ultimately think it comes down to three things, games, marketing, and value.

The killer app for this current gen of consoles was indeed the online services. I don't see that happening again though.

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