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There wouldn't need to be any. Emulation is for running binaries compiled for other architectures. Assuming the next generation of consoles are using x86-based processors, the only other piece of software required to run the games would probably be a compatibility layer. In that case, no performance would be lost.

That is exactly why there would need to be emulation, the cell processor is in a sub-category of PowerPC processors that uses the SPU instruction set, not x86.
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That is exactly why there would need to be emulation, the cell processor is in a sub-category of PowerPC processors that uses the SPU instruction set, not x86.

I don't think they're talking about the PS3 here...
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I really hope 4gb is enough ram. I dont want sony to repeat their mistake.. Surely theyve learnt from last gen.. Maybes its just me being used to having 8gb in my PC. I just cant wait for Playstations games to look like pcs games.. so I dont have to suffer with no AA and i can actually play with my friends who actually enjoy gaming. Unlike the majority of the PC elitists.
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I don't think they're talking about the PS3 here...

Well I assumed the guy he was replying to was talking about running ps3 games, but I could see how it could go either that way, or towards running PC games.
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HD7970M mobile gpus cost $280 (¥1800) in laptop stores in Shanghai, I wanted to upgrade my laptop gpu so I asked around for a bit. Sony would buy millions of those so they will get them for less than $200 per gpu for sure. Knowing AMD needs the $$$ I bet they got a sweet deal on the whole cpu + gpu + mobo bundle,probably less than $300 which would make it possible for the console to come out at $499 mark. Performance wise 7970M is pretty much same as a GTX 570 / HD 7850, you can overclock them on laptops not sure if that would make a difference on consoles since they will be locked at 30fps. Here is an HD7970M overclocked to 1050/1550 from stock 850/1200, it scores P7490 on 3dmark 11. Gaming performance is on par aswell, you can check how it performs in latest games over at notebookcheck , adding the console optimizations it could run any game at 1080p 4xAA with ultra quality @ min fps staying over 30. To sum it up, it is a very capable gpu and I hope they use an HD7970M, this way computer graphics won't be hold back by console limitations for a long while and we will see that leap in graphics we have been waiting for.

Here are some pics of the gpu





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I really hope 4gb is enough ram. I dont want sony to repeat their mistake.. Surely theyve learnt from last gen..

4GiB in late 2013 won't be much different relative to PC than the 512MiB total the PS3 had relative to PCs in 2005-2006, and a unified memory setup will allow more flexibility.
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ps4 most likely would stick to either the A10 or A8 APU with some sort of discrete graphics running in crossfire mode whenever required.
no way they can make a ps4 with 8 core cpu and 7970M and sell it for $400 . dont get your expectations too high
    
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ps4 most likely would stick to either the A10 or A8 APU with some sort of discrete graphics running in crossfire mode whenever required.
no way they can make a ps4 with 8 core cpu and 7970M and sell it for $400 . dont get your expectations too high
This. Game consoles are made so that they're affordable. Anything beyond that will be better if you build a gaming PC instead.
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This. Game consoles are made so that they're affordable. Anything beyond that will be better if you build a gaming PC instead.

That Jaguar 8 core CPU is cheaper to make IMO. Each core isnt that fast. Clock for Clock is may be nearly twice the speed as Atom, and a Atom core is still slower then a 3ghz p4 core. Jaguar is the most disappointing thing on the specs list IMO

I would rather have a trinity based CPU, Jaguar will probably be beaten out by next gen cortex cores as the A15 is already slightly faster then Atom.
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This. Game consoles are made so that they're affordable. Anything beyond that will be better if you build a gaming PC instead.

I don't know why people keep saying this. Almost all consoles have been state of the art when they where released. Even the current gens Xbox360 despite power, size and cost concerns still sported a very advanced 3x PPU CPU and the worlds very first GPU with unified shader architecture and the PS3 Cell processor was no less impressive when it was made.

This at a time when most PC's where still running Pentium D and Core 2 Duo was the fastest stuff money could buy.

People got to remember how freaking old the current gen consoles are.
    
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