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Hopefully this is the right section.

I have 16gb (4x4) of Corsair Vengeance RAM. My boot drive is 2 corsair force gt 120gb in raid 0. I have a wd caviar black 1tb hdd. edit: forgot to mention the 60gb vertex 2 being used as an ssd cache (asus mobo) for the hdd.

I am currently using 4gb of ram as a ramdisk, which has photoshop, autodesk maya, firefox cache and profiles, and the windows temp folder on it, so I really have 12GB of RAM available for other applications.

First thing I am trying to figure out is the pagefile. I do want to have one so if I get a BSOD it can create the dump, but after searching around I see people recommending all sorts of different setups. So which drive should I have it on and how big should I set it?

Second is the Photoshop scratch. When setting it in PS it says to choose a fast internal or external drive, and preferably not your boot drive, but also that any drive with free space will work. Should I just use C:\ since the RAID 0 SSDs are significantly faster than the single HDD? Is there a reason not to other than potential life span degradation?

One other question is about indexing. Is the only reason to disable indexing to reduce read/writes to the ssd? Can I enable it and move it to the HDD?
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Put the page file on any drive except the one that has the windows folder on it. That way windows can use it's stuff at the same time the page file is being used. For 16 gigs of memory (12 unused) you aren't going to be paging out hardly ever if at all, so size really doesn't matter. A gig or two would be plenty.
If your computer starts to page out (ie use a disk for memory) you'll know it right away. BIG slowdown, as hard disks and even SSDs are orders of magnitude slower than memory.

You can see the max size windows has used for it's pagefile: Right click My Computer > Properties > Advanced System settings > Advanced > Performance Settings box > Advanced Virtual memory Change box. There you can see and set the size and location of the page file.

Yes, indexing just wares out the drive. You can just index your spinner drive(s), but you can't move the index file off the boot drive, so that's still a problem. After 6 months with an SSD I'm still not decided if the ware and tare on the drive is worth loosing indexed searches.

I'm curious about the scratch drive though. I use Solid Works and PS. Though I don't do really, really complicated stuff.
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Alright I have set the page file to 2048-2048 on my HDD.

I guess I will turn on indexing too since I think current gen SSDs are rated for such a long lifespan that they will be replaced before fully wearing out anyways. edit: you can actually move the index. I just moved it to my HDD smile.gif.

As for the scratch disk I assume they suggest not the boot drive for the same reason you said for the page file (to not have the page file on the same drive as the windows folder). I guess I will just leave it on my HDD for now too.
Edited by alduin - 1/19/13 at 6:12pm
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... you can actually move the index. .
How?
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... you can actually move the index. .
How?
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-CA/windows7/Change-advanced-indexing-options
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To change the location where the index is stored

If you need to free up space on a hard disk, you can change the location of the index. If you change this location, the Windows Search service will automatically be restarted, and the change will not go into effect until the restart is complete.

Open Indexing Options by clicking the Start button 4f6cbd09-148c-4dd8-b1f2-48f232a2fd33_818.jpg, and then clicking Control Panel. In the search box, type indexing options, and then click Indexing Options.

Click Advanced. 18abb370-ac1e-4b6b-b663-e028a75bf05b_48.jpg If you're prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.

In the Advanced Options dialog box, click the Index Settings tab.

Under Index location, click Select new, click a new location, click OK, and then click OK again.
     
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Moved!

U da man!
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