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1/19/13 at 9:26am
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Damn, the specs are amazing !! Got me wondering though, are the 8-cores cpu all true or is it a quad-core with hyperthreading ?!
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1/19/13 at 9:31am
The fandroids are delusional. Doesn't lag or stutter? LMAO. Yeah then you're choosing to ignore it. BTW I have a SG3 with CM10 and it still gets random stutters and it pisses me off. All they do now is throw MOAR CORES at the problem. If it wasn't for androids features and pseudo openness then I'd use iOS. My friends old iphone 4 NEVER stutters or lags.
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1/19/13 at 9:36am
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The fandroids are delusional. Doesn't lag or stutter? LMAO. Yeah then you're choosing to ignore it. BTW I have a SG3 with CM10 and it still gets random stutters and it pisses me off. All they do now is throw MOAR CORES at the problem. If it wasn't for androids features and pseudo openness then I'd use iOS. My friends old iphone 4 NEVER stutters or lags.

Clearly your "friend" never update the darn thing. Anything over ios 5.0 slows the crap out of the iphone 4. Nothing like pushing the home button and waiting almost a whole second for anything to happen.
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1/19/13 at 9:40am
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Quote:
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The fandroids are delusional. Doesn't lag or stutter? LMAO. Yeah then you're choosing to ignore it. BTW I have a SG3 with CM10 and it still gets random stutters and it pisses me off. All they do now is throw MOAR CORES at the problem. If it wasn't for androids features and pseudo openness then I'd use iOS. My friends old iphone 4 NEVER stutters or lags.

Iphones have little to no GUI, not to mention they cant really multitask, nor its customizable. Compare the 2 OS-es GUI's! Which one can be customized a zillion different ways with 3rd party widgets, custom launchers etc...
Something not ment to be customizable is of course faster.

I have an older Samsung Galaxy nexus (google :3), which is a dual core with a powerVR SGX540, and 1GB of ram, and it does not lag.
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1/19/13 at 9:46am
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Coupled with jaw dropping Input Lag! The entire Android phones is complete joke. Nothing against the OS but still its Java bs. Can't create native 3d applications without skipping the Java layer.

This is incorrect.

Google has been working on the input lag, and with project butter has eliminated most if not all of it.

Yes, Android runs on Java, but the underlying interpreter code is C/C++. You CAN write modules that need to run quickly in the NDK, which allows you to code 'on the metal' vs against the Dalvik VM.

Aside from that though, the only reason an app would be laggy in Android's case is someone abusing the garbage collector constantly. It's an expensive process.
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1/19/13 at 9:50am
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Every Android phone has atleast 150-200ms input lag. Galaxy note's have above 300ms. If you can't see the input lag then your either are not a PC user, a non competitive Vsync PC player or no clue what i'm talking about. Even devices running Cyanogenmod 10(Jelly bean) has considerable amount of input lag. Input Lag ≠ Framerate lag. If still can't understand, go play Canabalt or Impossible Game on Android and then play it on iOS. Tegra devices have less input lag even at choppy framerates when playing Dead Trigger still not as good as iOS or Windows Phone 8.
The Java layer i was talking about was NDK only and not the native SDK.

I literallly just bought 3 copies of impossible game to see what you were saying (I didn't want to do a lite vs non lite version). I would like my three dollars back please. There is literally no difference between my nexus 7, iphone 4, or my moms iphone 5. The only difference is that the iphone 4 takes forever to load anything. I also tried angry birds on all 3 to see if there is a difference. Still nothing.
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1/19/13 at 9:55am
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Every Android phone has atleast 150-200ms input lag. Galaxy note's have above 300ms. If you can't see the input lag then your either are not a PC user, a non competitive Vsync PC player or no clue what i'm talking about. Even devices running Cyanogenmod 10(Jelly bean) has considerable amount of input lag. Input Lag ≠ Framerate lag. If still can't understand, go play Canabalt or Impossible Game on Android and then play it on iOS. Tegra devices have less input lag even at choppy framerates when playing Dead Trigger still not as good as iOS or Windows Phone 8.

Input lag is more dependent on the screen technology than the software. Some optimization can help reduce input lag, but the touch screen technology that every company is using in their products are bound to have >100ms lag. Unless they start adopting what Microsoft created (some 1ms touch screen), we will be seeing input lag for a while, and it's not only Android that has this. Basically every touch device has noticeable amounts of input lag.

Anyways, I'm not looking forward to this phone that much as I thought I would be. The Exynos 5 just has me confused. Why couldn't they just stick with 4 cores and optimize those instead of throwing in another 4 to cover up the power consumption? It just seems a cheap approach to grab the ego of the general consumer. But hey, if it proves itself in the benches, then who cares? I'm interested in seeing how Exynos 5 compares to the S4. Not to mention, the GPU on it should be able to perform nicely.

EDIT: Fixed quote name
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1/19/13 at 9:56am
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1/19/13 at 9:57am
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1/19/13 at 9:59am
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The fandroids are delusional. Doesn't lag or stutter? LMAO. Yeah then you're choosing to ignore it. BTW I have a SG3 with CM10 and it still gets random stutters and it pisses me off. All they do now is throw MOAR CORES at the problem. If it wasn't for androids features and pseudo openness then I'd use iOS. My friends old iphone 4 NEVER stutters or lags.

The iPhone 4 in my hand doesn't seem as nice as your friend's. It's smoothness and lack of input lag is inconsistent; at times it's perfectly fine, but then it'll hang up somewhat randomly. Putting my phone to the 4, 4S, and 5, and coworkers have largely preferred my android phone (excepting my boss, who loves her iPhone "because she loves iPhones". Her words.) in their brief time using it, and I've loved it and have ready access to the most current three gens of iPhones to compare it to. The flagship Android phones are no slouch for sure.
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