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Why do folk who have laggy phones quote they are using CM10 as if thats the be all and end all of what there is out there. You do know if your using that on an Exynos chipped Samsung etc your not getting half the benefit of the hardware in your phone due to how ****ty Samsung have gone with dev support.
I personally wont be going near this phone unless the attitude to dev support from Samsung on the Exynos chips changes.
    
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Originally Posted by assaulth3ro911 View Post

About time the used a faster GPU instead of the Adreno 225 which is pretty dated. I hope the price drops a lot by about August. biggrin.gif

They stopped using 225 a while ago. They have been using mali 400 I believe.

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The fandroids are delusional. Doesn't lag or stutter? LMAO. Yeah then you're choosing to ignore it. BTW I have a SG3 with CM10 and it still gets random stutters and it pisses me off. All they do now is throw MOAR CORES at the problem. If it wasn't for androids features and pseudo openness then I'd use iOS. My friends old iphone 4 NEVER stutters or lags.


Come in here mentioning you have a SG3 with cm10? Thats how I know you dont.

That's what every IOS user uses to support there lag argument.

Your friend's iphone 4 must be golden, I have even experienced iphone 5 lagging even though it hardly has any computing going on.
Edited by bencher - 1/19/13 at 10:36am
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Personally I've had more problems with CM10 than with stock on my GS3. I prefer stock rooted.
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Input lag is more dependent on the screen technology than the software. Some optimization can help reduce input lag, but the touch screen technology that every company is using in their products are bound to have >100ms lag. Unless they start adopting what Microsoft created (some 1ms touch screen), we will be seeing input lag for a while, and it's not only Android that has this. Basically every touch device has noticeable amounts of input lag.

Anyways, I'm not looking forward to this phone that much as I thought I would be. The Exynos 5 just has me confused. Why couldn't they just stick with 4 cores and optimize those instead of throwing in another 4 to cover up the power consumption? It just seems a cheap approach to grab the ego of the general consumer. But hey, if it proves itself in the benches, then who cares? I'm interested in seeing how Exynos 5 compares to the S4. Not to mention, the GPU on it should be able to perform nicely.

EDIT: Fixed quote name

Because, basically, the A15 cores use less power than the A9's, but there's no point in running the A15 cores, when the A8's can run most tasks with exactly the same level of efficiency and performance. So, lower powered tasks, for instance, the desktop, can run on the A8 cores... so event handling for calls, texts, syncing to dropbox, etc all those tasks run on the A8 just as quick as the A15, but then if you need to have some grunt, you can use the A15's and take advantage. Naturally the A8's use less power so there's the power saving.
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This is incorrect.

Google has been working on the input lag, and with project butter has eliminated most if not all of it.

Yes, Android runs on Java, but the underlying interpreter code is C/C++. You CAN write modules that need to run quickly in the NDK, which allows you to code 'on the metal' vs against the Dalvik VM.

Aside from that though, the only reason an app would be laggy in Android's case is someone abusing the garbage collector constantly. It's an expensive process.

Agreed
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I dont really like the input lag in my Nexus 4. My iPad 3 its so much nicer to use because it feels responsive even though Nexus 4 is faster.
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They stopped using 225 a while ago. They have been using mali 400 I believe.
Come in here mentioning you have a SG3 with cm10? Thats how I know you dont.

That's what every IOS user uses to support there lag argument.

Your friend's iphone 4 must be golden, I have even experienced iphone 5 lagging even though it hardly has any computing going on.

Yeah bro I totally don't have a american sg3 WITHOUT the exynos (for the guy saying its the exynos).Im not going to quote the other fans because there is too much. Android people are just like the Linux people in that they ignore all short comings and defend their precious OS to the death. Guy who quoted me talking about customization: read my post slower.

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Yeah bro I totally don't have a american sg3 WITHOUT the exynos (for the guy saying its the exynos).Im not going to quote the other fans because there is too much. Android people are just like the Linux people in that they ignore all short comings and defend their precious OS to the death. Guy who quoted me talking about customization: read my post slower.


What does this prove?

I am lost confused.gif
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SGS3 with CM10 is perfectly possible... wth.gif
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Android has still a lot of work ahead to remove its input lag; I have an HTC One X, and I have tried everything from stock to the lightest roms (with HTC Sense removed) and it still lags, especially after a restart. I have played with Samsung Galaxy SIIIs and Notes and they also lag more or less by the same amount. So the problem is widespread and Android flagships are not exempt from the lagging. But somehow, my iPad 3 is buttery smooth all the time.

I'd like to clarify that these lags are quite minor; it's just that split-second of stuttering that occurs when changing apps, or going into the app drawer, or when changing to landscape mode, etc... But it is very noticeable to me, and it shouldn't to be there. And I don't think the problem is the specs, it is the Android OS.
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