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Hey man maybe you should take a look at that more closely, there's also overclocked i5s in there.

And I'm sorry but weren't we looking at CPU performance? It kindof makes sense to use a CPU bound game then right?

LOOK AT THE GRAPHS. In Shogun 2, when both the 2500k and the 3570k are at 5 Ghz, the 3570k gets 36 fps to the 2500k's 26. How is that not significant?

I also really liked that your link to XBIT directly contradicted what you said earlier -
To the OP: Following this guy's information would have you:
Discount an entire company without considering how you will be using your computer
Purchase an EOL socket on the promise that more CPUs will come out for them,
Ignore the fact that IB does have a small increase in IPC
Ignore the fact that IB can actually overclock extremely high in some scenarios (These involve delidding, so in most cases SB will have a higher OC)

I think we can safely say that he has given you blatantly false information and some potentially very bad advice.

This guy is either ignorant or trolling. I would be seriously skeptical of any and all advice given from him.

That's not to say you shouldn't consider the 2500k though. the SB i5 is an extremely powerful processor and would serve your needs for a long, long time. Sandy and Ivy bridge are close enough in price and performance that when choosing between them it should come down to what 's the best deal you can get.

I hope this helps you out and hope you have a ton of fun with your new PC smile.gif

Shogun is just a CPU benchmark test lol, it has nothing to do with real world gaming performance.

All the tests I linked pretty much proved that they are equal at same clock speeds.

My point still stands, if you are going to overclock then 2500K is the way to go.
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Originally Posted by Shimme View Post

Hey man maybe you should take a look at that more closely, there's also overclocked i5s in there.

And I'm sorry but weren't we looking at CPU performance? It kindof makes sense to use a CPU bound game then right?

LOOK AT THE GRAPHS. In Shogun 2, when both the 2500k and the 3570k are at 5 Ghz, the 3570k gets 36 fps to the 2500k's 26. How is that not significant?

I also really liked that your link to XBIT directly contradicted what you said earlier -
To the OP: Following this guy's information would have you:
Discount an entire company without considering how you will be using your computer
Purchase an EOL socket on the promise that more CPUs will come out for them,
Ignore the fact that IB does have a small increase in IPC
Ignore the fact that IB can actually overclock extremely high in some scenarios (These involve delidding, so in most cases SB will have a higher OC)

I think we can safely say that he has given you blatantly false information and some potentially very bad advice.

This guy is either ignorant or trolling. I would be seriously skeptical of any and all advice given from him.

That's not to say you shouldn't consider the 2500k though. the SB i5 is an extremely powerful processor and would serve your needs for a long, long time. Sandy and Ivy bridge are close enough in price and performance that when choosing between them it should come down to what 's the best deal you can get.

I hope this helps you out and hope you have a ton of fun with your new PC smile.gif

Shogun is just a CPU benchmark test lol, it has nothing to do with real world gaming performance.

All the tests I linked pretty much proved that they are equal at same clock speeds.

My point still stands, if you are going to overclock then 2500K is the way to go.

 

 

So you are telling me that 3570k is a rebadged 2500k?

 

EDIT: He has a 2500k, nuff said.

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I just built a new rig a few days ago and went from a Q6600 rig I built in 2007 to LGA 1155 and an ivy bridge i5. I'm done playing the waiting game with technology. You just end up never buying anything and waiting forever.
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Shogun is just a CPU benchmark test lol, it has nothing to do with real world gaming performance.

-snip-

Shogun 2 is, in fact a game.

Please go away now.
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BF3 will use up to 8 cores if that means anything to you, intel does have higher IPC tho.... for BF3 I'd either go with the 8350 or a 3770k.....

Do you have another source that supports these results? I have seen you paste it over and over but I haven't seen anything else similar. This usually means the results are accidentally or purposely WRONG.
Edited by Derp - 1/20/13 at 1:49pm
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Shogun 2 is, in fact a game.

Please go away now.

And that thing they use is just a CPU benchmark.
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So you are telling me that 3570k is a rebadged 2500k?

EDIT: He has a 2500k, nuff said.

I never said that, it is only faster in benchmarks.
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Do you have another source that supports these results? I have seen you paste it over and over but I haven't seen anything else similar. This usually means the results are accidentally or purposely WRONG.

I can vouch for that, I did a 3570k vs 8350, both at 4.8gh with a stock 7970 ghz edition, the i5 scored 83fps and the 8350 scored 85fps, considering both were clocked the same that would take in to account why the i5 was slower at stock because at stock it is 600mhz slower than the 8350 where as in bf3 clock for clock they are near enough equal...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1333027/amd-fx-8350-vs-i5-3570k-delidded-single-gpu-and-crossfire-gpu
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And that thing they use is just a CPU benchmark.
I never said that, it is only faster in benchmarks.


That is a GAME benchmark. A CPU benchmark would be something like cinebench.

A game benchmark utilizes both the CPU and GPU in a realistic game scenario to give you an idea of how your rig will perform at the tested specs while in game. The only thing different between those two systems is the CPU - which means that, with an identical GPU, Mobo, RAM HDD/SSD the 3570k will perform better at the same frequency as a 2500k.
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Same clocked 3550 still beats the 2500k. Face it. 


 



Do you want more?



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That is a GAME benchmark. A CPU benchmark would be something like cinebench.


A game benchmark utilizes both the CPU and GPU in a realistic game scenario to give you an idea of how your rig will perform at the tested specs while in game. The only thing different between those two systems is the CPU - which means that, with an identical GPU, Mobo, RAM HDD/SSD the 3570k will perform better at the same frequency as a 2500k.



He can't accept that the Ivy Bridge processors are better than his.

He's like



I never said they are equal in synthetic benchmarks, I was only talking about game performance if you actually bothered to read before making your posts.
I did also post that 3570K is slightly faster in synthetic benchmarks and encoding etc.
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I never said they are equal in synthetic benchmarks, I was only talking about game performance if you actually bothered to read before making your posts.
I did also post that 3570K is slightly faster in synthetic benchmarks and encoding etc.

Yeah, I did read you. The problem is, it's faster in games too.

Unless you want to argue that a game benchmark test is not a reliable indicator of real-world performance you have no argument.
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