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So you are saying these scanners do not add any actual security to flights? Only the perception of security?

Well its mostly true, I know how to get stuff past them. Just look it up.
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So you are saying these scanners do not add any actual security to flights? Only the perception of security?

How many terrorists have the TSA caught? The backscatter x-ray is the least of our worries. Patting down children? People in wheelchairs? Stripping elderly people in diapers? Asking cancer victims to remove fake breasts? Removing colonostomy bags?

Biggest waste of money ever.
    
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Well its mostly true, I know how to get stuff past them. Just look it up.

Thought you may be able to get stuff past the scanners, that is only 1 part of their security. For example, last flight I went on I had to go through the scanner, get checked by a metal detector, and was also patted down. This is the same for everyone going through.
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How many terrorists have the TSA caught? The backscatter x-ray is the least of our worries. Patting down children? People in wheelchairs? Stripping elderly people in diapers? Asking cancer victims to remove fake breasts? Removing colonostomy bags?

Biggest waste of money ever.

And what would you say if a terrorist did get through. Would you be judging the security system in place for being too weak? As far as how many people the tsa has caught I will have to look it up,

How many of these people would have done something with these guns, I do not know, but here is just one article showing gun seizures for 2012. http://nationalsecurityzone.org/site/for-2012-tsa-finds-1525-guns-at-check-in-four-each-day-and-85-were-loaded/
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Well its mostly true, I know how to get stuff past them. Just look it up.

See Futurama quote from episode "The Birdbot of Ice-Catraz"

"...between your buttocks! That's nature's pocket."
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And what would you say if a terrorist did get through. Would you be judging the security system in place for being too weak? As far as how many people the tsa has caught I will have to look it up,

Did you know they started setting up highway checkpoints as well? Where does it end? Again, gross violation of our 4th amendment. When's the last time a terrorist used an American child's diaper to hide weapons? The TSA doesn't have a shred of common sense in the entire department.

Don't bother looking it up. You'll find that they've caught exactly 0 terrorists. Great success rate for all that poking and prodding and strip searching.
    
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Did you know they started setting up highway checkpoints as well? Where does it end? Again, gross violation of our 4th amendment. When's the last time a terrorist used an American child's diaper to hide weapons? The TSA doesn't have a shred of common sense in the entire department.

Don't bother looking it up. You'll find that they've caught exactly 0 terrorists. Great success rate for all that poking and prodding and strip searching.

Well, what is your definition of a terrorist. They have caught people with guns, weapons, drugs, etc. The last time a child's diaper was used, I have no clue if it was ever used. There was the underwear bomber though, which I would say is somewhat similar. Have you been through these scanners? I have, and I can say it was pretty pain free. Yes, you will hear these sensationalist articles in some situations where they over step with their poking and prodding. I, see this as the same as when a police officer oversteps his duties, I blame the officer, and not blame the entire police force. I would still like to know, if there was a terrorist incident that happened what your opinion would be. Would you be ok, with the current system in place? Still want less security? More security?

And yes, if you want to go use the airport services, you have to agree to give up certain rights. For example, you cannot bring guns on a plane, you must give up your 2nd amendment rights. Also, you may be searched, this is to try to make a safer environment. If you do not like this, you do not have to fly on planes.
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looks innocent enough.
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The sooner the TSA is gone the better. All these privacy invasive scanners do is provide people with a false sense of security. The article even mentions how easy it is to fool these scanners. All these scanners (and the TSA for that matter) do is violate your rights, provide you with a dangerous false sense of security, hit you with who knows how dangerous radiation, and cost the taxpayers millions.

Since these scanners are still in place I still vow to make the process as uncomfortable as possible for everybody involved.

So you are saying these scanners do not add any actual security to flights? Only the perception of security?

That's it exactly.

The FAA regularly conducts what it calls 'red team tests', where federal agents test how well the TSA is working to provide security by attempting to smuggle weapons and explosives through security checkpoints at major airports.

The TSA succeeds in finding these 'red team' weapons about 30% of the time. There was a documented case of a day of testing at Newark International in 2006 where the TSA caught 2 of 22 weapons moved through security.

That is not an acceptable return for the casual violations of personal rights they inflict upon travelers.


Or the case of the man who forgot to remove his loaded gun from his computer bag before flying... and found it still in his bag when he reached his hotel after the flight.
Edited by AblueXKRS - 1/19/13 at 4:26pm
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Those scanners were fun to troll by doing the epic sax guy bit while going through em.
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