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Is there any way I don't have to compromise between vsync/screen tearing/input lag?

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Not quite sure if this is Nvidia specific, but let's take Far Cry 3 for example. On all maxed settings no AA, I'm usually ~ mid 60s to mid 70s in MP. The mouse is responsive, but the screen tearing I get makes it seem like the game is stuttering alot. So I turn on vsync, capped at 60, game stuttering is nonexistent, tearing is gone, but the synonymous mouse input delay brought by vsync is occuring. It's not THAT bad, I could probably live with it, but I'm wondering if people know of a way I wouldn't have to compromise. Thanks in advance.
Edited by venomblade - 1/21/13 at 11:45pm
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adaptive Vsync...


check it out, its pretty awesome


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAiPmazmR_M&list=FLYlfY-ZVRkfQyk3KzUgEAUQ&index=7
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adaptive Vsync...


check it out, its pretty awesome


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAiPmazmR_M&list=FLYlfY-ZVRkfQyk3KzUgEAUQ&index=7

Aha, completely forgot about that feature. Never used it because I heard there's still input lag with it. Will give it a go, thanks.
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you have to have adaptive vsync on in your nvidia control panel and vsync on in the game, took me a bit to figure this out
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you have to have adaptive vsync on in your nvidia control panel and vsync on in the game, took me a bit to figure this out

Odd, I have it on in control pannel and off in game but it still caps and works great. On another note, this is a fantastic feature and fixed my input lag from normal vsync, it also doesn't give the performance hit that normal vsync does in some games.
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adaptive Vsync...


check it out, its pretty awesome


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAiPmazmR_M&list=FLYlfY-ZVRkfQyk3KzUgEAUQ&index=7

Adaptive vsync also have it's own issues.

I get screen tearing some games like gta iv and hitman absolution, even if the fps is well below 50
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Ugh mouse is still letharic no matter what I do. I have adaptive on in NVCC, and I tried Vsync with 1 frame which normally caps the fps at 60 as well, and the mouse felt a bit better but still only ok, and tried with 2 frames which would normally cap it at 30(which I don't want, it was just a test) but adaptive seemed to override that and keep me at 6. Played around with max buffered frames, still the same. The mouse felt leagues better keeping adaptive off and vsync in game on, but still not 100% precise. Ugh I guess I should just settle for imprecision and smooth visuals rather than a precise mouse and a stuttering mess.
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thats so weird... try a different mouse?

i have adaptive Vsycn on in the NVCC and vsync 1 fram on in the farcry 3, everything is so freaking buttery smooth, and with fraps on i can see adaptive vsync working beautifully, dips to about 54fps during graphic intensive scenarios for a second then goes back up to 60 when things calm down... seamlessly.
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thats so weird... try a different mouse?

i have adaptive Vsycn on in the NVCC and vsync 1 fram on in the farcry 3, everything is so freaking buttery smooth, and with fraps on i can see adaptive vsync working beautifully, dips to about 54fps during graphic intensive scenarios for a second then goes back up to 60 when things calm down... seamlessly.

I don't think I'd wanna go from my Kana to my crappy dell mouse haha. With any form of vsync on the game is buttery smooth, it just introduces a mouse input delay that bothers me to no end. With vsync off mouse is fine, but the game just appears to stutter alot even when I'm getting like 65-70 fps. Weird occurence though, playing MP right now with no vsync anywhere and the stutter is pretty much gone, even when I"m getting ~70 fps, not quite sure what changed.
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The only way youre not going to get tearing/the vsync issue is if you dont require the monitor to chop so many frames over what it is able to process. I went with a 120hz monitor for my two 580's and vsync input lag is gone. I have noticed that when you enable vsync with higher refresh rates, you do not get input lag. My suggestion- 120hz monitor. If adaptive vsync and other frame limiters arent working, thats really the only route to go.
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