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post #11 of 24
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Originally Posted by Skyroor View Post

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................. I can get about 10fps boost with the OC, but then after about 10 minutes or less of gameplay my PC resets. So, first thing i do is turn off the OC, and do some research. I got prime95 (Blend on v2.7.9 build 1 (64bit)), and ran it 3.5 hours with max cpu temps of 65c and 55c on the individual cores

So u say u turned of OC? and ran prime95. Does that mean u ran prime on stock clock and not on OCed settings. Just thinking stock heatsink, stock voltage and 4.4GHz that seems 2good to be true as ppl usually touch 1.5v for about 4.5 4.6 and 4.7
It just got me thinking maybe it is CPU?
Well got to wait for u re update howdid tests go with ram at 1600? Ofc everything else should be oced as u stated before 4.4GHz cpu 840 iGPU.

2 more things to notice.
1 oc genie i think u should stick to manual OC in bios
2 turbo core(turbo boost) in bios should be disabled (it is the thing that clocks u re cpu to 4.2 from default 3.8)


Edit:
these turbo setting options
AMD Turbo Core Technology

Adjust Max Turbo Core Ratio

Adjust Turbo Core Ratio

does u re uefi bios look like this?
u should try using OC tab on left and input u re setting there. Unless it isnt working for some reason.


EDIT2: Btw give link to u re 3dmark result or post SS of score with total score, graphics and cpu score visible.
Edited by zvrk22 - 1/20/13 at 3:52pm
post #12 of 24
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Test went perfect; at another 42% pass with no issues.

No I turned it off, while I was researching but of course turned it back on for prime95. Also, I believe the the voltage should only go up to 1.475 max or something like that. Recently since I didn't really see the need to oc the cpu, mainly just want oc memory and iGPU.

My setting more in depth are this;
105x38 - 3990MHz
Turbo Core/which ill disable now - 105x40 - 4200MHz (max) and 105x38 - 3990MHz (min)
This is still crashing. And technically no overclocking; actually more under clocking.

I would go all manual if I could; no doubt. But the bios doesn't allow me to change the cpu base frequency, the only option is 100. Or 105 with oc genie. I can do it with control center; but it only stays till I reboot. Also, I believe that I can't overclock the memory without the 105 base frequency increase; then I can't use VGA. This whole thing is just a mess..
     
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post #13 of 24
Indeed it isnt overclocking at all. As it turbos at 4.2 at stock.

About that 100 only option "Adjust CPU FSB Frequency" it shows 100 and no other options? could it be u need to press "plus" or "minus" sign on keyboard? or maybe "page up" and "page down" ?
Maybe just click on it and punch in number?
Also try not to run ati overdrive lots of ppl dont like it and sauy it can cause trouble. Just the less things we have tothink about the better.

Also when u say not stable does that mean at those settings
105x38 - 3990MHz
1639MHz memory
stock voltage
It crashed 3d mark and the far cry 3?
That is actually good news seems u re ram wasnt causing u issues.
Edited by zvrk22 - 1/20/13 at 4:32pm
post #14 of 24
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No I still need to run 3DMark with the new memory changes. That's my next task.

I hear using overdrive is the only way for some people to successfully overclock their iGpu. Even when I use it, it doesn't read that I overclocked the iGPU to 840, it remains at 800, or lower depending on the load. For now though I won't use it though. Until we find the culprit.

Also in those images, look at the temp differences between MSI control center (using a msi board) and hwmonitor. I'm having a hard time finding out whats accurate. If hwmonitor is the accurate one this whole issue is heat.
     
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post #15 of 24
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Awesome, the + key works! Now I can stop using OC genie! smile.gif

EDIT: Nope, the 105 doesn't stay on save and exit. So that was useless. frown.gif
Edited by Skyroor - 1/20/13 at 6:36pm
     
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post #16 of 24
Wierd. I hope someone else joins the topic. I am clueless as to why bios wont keep/save settings.

I would suggest bios reset and starting from scratch again.
Disabling turbo core and cpu power saving options. After that try ocing CPU by cpu multi(not through oc gennie but rather manual oc "adjust cpu ratio"), allso try getting ram as high as posible if not working at 1866 u might wanna up cpu-NB voltage just a bit. Last play with multi for iGPU. Make sure u test stability and performance(like for iGPU multi to see if u gain anything from changing it).

Good luck.
post #17 of 24
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Well, I can overclock the cpu just fine. No issues there, maybe other than heat. I emailed MSI and they told me that the control center should be more accurate than any other program regarding temps as it is a direct bios read. Also, I can't overclock the memory without a fbs oc/technically using oc genie. Then the iGPU can only be oc'ed using overdrive it seems, even though bios says its overclocked, nothing reads it as overclocked.

Tomorrow, ill start messing with the iGPU though. Manually start at 840, then up to 1080 is where I saw it was best fit. Let you know, FPS results from the two. iGPU needs what voltage increase? NB or CPU?
     
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post #18 of 24
If you are overclocking by changing the FSB, then try to make your memory run as close to stock speeds as possible to minimize problems. Multiple websites that compared different DDR3 and even DDR2 rams, and found no significant advantage of having higher speeds. There are also very slight differences between DDR2 and DDR3 except DDR3 uses less power and have more bandwidth I believe.

Here is the best article I found that addresses this issue: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2232/7

And adding a 6670 is not worth it IMO, unless you meant 6670X2.
I'm pretty sure the 6670 is on the same level as your iGPU, and CFing them might cause shuddering. Of course I heard that from the laptop A10 reviews when Trinity was first released, and AMD probably have better driver for them now.

Becareful when overclocking your iGPU though, since it shares power with your CPU. If you want to see major FPS gains then I suggest you wait until the 8000 series, then pick up either a 8000 or a 7000, which ever has better performance for the price.
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Well I am running DDR3 memory so thats not really an issue. Just that memtest see's it as that. Also, with an iGPU people have found a 20% increase from 1333MHz to 1600MHz. Tons of comparison charts here: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/46073-amd-a10-5800k-trinity-needs-faster-ram/

Are these 8000 and 7000 series going to compatible with the new Trinity series?

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