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Hope I don't regret my $230 3770K purchase back in November.
LOL i wouldnt, and for that price. The 3770k should last a while imo.
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post #102 of 282
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LOL i wouldnt, and for that price. The 3770k should last a while imo.


Plus looking at the used 2600K prices on Ebay right now you should get most of your money back even if you feel the itch to sell and go Haswell.
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post #103 of 282
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If intel was making X89 you can be sure board partners would already have it, they need time to make the boards, a couple of months isn't enough.

As for where it was stated, MSIAlex hints at it here:

I haven't seen any concrete info besides seeing IB-E appear on roadmaps and seeing very early Xeon ES chips with 10 cores.

At least one guy on OCN has ES chips afaik but he won't talk (I'm looking at you dhenzjhen tongue.gif)

Any links to es xeon results?
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post #104 of 282
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Is there an actual source for DDR4 on Broadwell? I've heard Broadwell-E has it, but Skylake introduces it for mainstream platforms.

Either way, there's no benefit to running DDR4 over DDR3, RAM speed is already way above what most people need anyway.

No there is not.

I'd say DDR4 is further than a year away. If Ivy Bridge-E is coming out Q3 2013 there's no way in hell DDR4 is coming to even the most extreme desktop chipsets any sooner than Q3 of 2014. Intel wouldn't make DDR4 available on Broadwell before it's available on their enthusiast level chipsets, plain and simple.

Your likely going to see DDR4 from Skylake, Haswell-E and AMD's Excavator near 2015. I say this because during that time-frame is when Intel will be dropping a replacement for LGA 1150 and LGA 2011 and when AMD will be working on dropping Excavator and likely be replacing AM3+ AND FM2. It just makes sense.

Think of it like DDR3, it began getting demoed back in 2005, however it didn't hit the shelves until 2007 and it didn't become the real "Norm" until 2009. DDR4 is being demoed in 2013, will probably arrive in 2015 and become the norm a year or two after. I wouldn't be surprised if we continued to see "New" laptops with DDR3 memory in them for a year or so after DDR4 is released because of the prices.
Edited by M3T4LM4N222 - 1/20/13 at 10:58pm
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Haswell-E definitely has DDR4, Haswell does not. As for Broadwell, there's no official word, but I think there are good odds for it. BGA packaging means they don't have to maintain pin compatibility with Haswell, and DDR4 would be a great help to low power platforms that rely on IGP. Either way, there will be DDR4 parts out sometime in 2014.
Edited by TranquilTempest - 1/20/13 at 11:07pm
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post #106 of 282
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Any links to es xeon results?

http://wccftech.com/intel-ivy-bridgeep-xeon-10-cores20-threads-30mb-l3-cache-spotted/

It's old as I said
 
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Finally Ivy Bridge can become affordable now.. maybe..
     
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If they release X89 I just hope it has sas

X89 with IB-E?

Doubtful since MSI for example was showing X79 boards during CES that they stated were meant to be a refresh of their current lineup for a new series of CPUs coming in H2

Wasn't there some more SB-e series CPUs coming out before IB-e is? There was the rumour of an 8 core one, so maybe they're moving to take advantage of that and then go to x89.

That said, I seriously doubt x89 will be for IB-e, but for Haswell-e.
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Hope I don't regret my $230 3770K purchase back in November.

Why would it? It's not like it instantly loses 50% of its performance when Haswell launches, if you didn't regret the purchase then, you won't now. (Short of the chip not scaling well when games slowly move to fully utilize 4, then 6 and eventually 8 cores, but that's more of a concern for i5 users...if you can even call it a concern...)
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Haswell-E definitely has DDR4, Haswell does not. As for Broadwell, there's no official word, but I think there are good odds for it. BGA packaging means they don't have to maintain pin compatibility with Haswell, and DDR4 would be a great help to low power platforms that rely on IGP. Either way, there will be DDR4 parts out sometime in 2014.

You do realize that the whole BGA thing isn't for every Broadwell CPU? There will likely be 1150 compatible Broadwell CPUs simply because it's even more marketshare for Intel, it's Skylake where I'd expect mainstream chips to completely go BGA...If they even do.

BGA is definite for Broadwell simply because Intel is quite clearly aiming to move the Atom to smartphones and tablets, leaving LP Haswell/Broadwell chips for where the Atom currently is, small netbooks and x86 tablets don't ever need a CPU replacement so they get BGA to save on costs and space, that's where I wager that the BGA rumour stemmed from and that Intel is actually keeping most people on LGA.
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Wasn't there some more SB-e series CPUs coming out before IB-e is? There was the rumour of an 8 core one, so maybe they're moving to take advantage of that and then go to x89.

That said, I seriously doubt x89 will be for IB-e, but for Haswell-e.

There were rumors about a 3980X and a 3930K refresh. The 3980X was listed by arctic when they also listed haswell models and the 3930K with a clock speed bump was assumed because the road maps at the moment have a greater than symbol with the 3930K and 3970X around Q2 or so.

But I don't really believe we'll see an 8-core SB-E. Would be great but I doubt it.
 
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Meh, do we really need a new X89 chipset though? Most X79 boards have way more features than you'd ever need.

But an X89 release would drop X79 prices so I'm all for it tongue.gif

Official SSD RAID support would be nice!
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