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Originally Posted by Aquasheep View Post

Well, this sucks:
USB 3.0 problems for Intel's Haswell

Just more reason to not buy the intital Haswell release ( already planned to not buy becasue early bios issues & Motherboard being more expensive on release), Intel probably will have a new stepping out in Q3 according to this graph anyway.



Overall for desktop use I think this is just a nuisance, I never use either Sleep or Hibernate with my desktop. For Laptop it could be a issue but there are speculation that Intel isn't ramping up for mobile Haswell until Q3 so the new stepping could be out by then.

At least Intel caught it 3 month before release & It is not as terrible as the P67 SATA Bug.
Edited by sherlock - 3/1/13 at 7:38am
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Sandy bridge ... SATA problems. Now USB problems
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Is Haswell native usb 3.0 only? Or will there still be 2.0?
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Originally Posted by Aquasheep View Post

Well, this sucks:
USB 3.0 problems for Intel's Haswell

I wonder if this is only an issue for USB 3.0 devices connected to USB 3.0 ports or if USB 2.0 devices will have same issue on USB 3.0 ports as well.

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A different (Dutch) website mentions the same USB 3.0 problems with Haswell, but according to them only the laptops and ultrabooks are affected. It would still suck though.
Google translate First batch of Intel Haswell laptops faces possible with USB 3.0 problems
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Just more reason to not buy the intital Haswell release ( already planned to not buy becasue early bios issues & Motherboard being more expensive on release), Intel probably will have a new stepping out in Q3 according to this graph anyway.



Overall for desktop use I think this is just a nuisance, I never use either Sleep or Hibernate with my desktop. For Laptop it could be a issue but there are speculation that Intel isn't ramping up for mobile Haswell until Q3 so the new stepping could be out by then.

At least Intel caught it 3 month before release & It is not as terrible as the P67 SATA Bug.

A couple times the presenter was asked if Haswell will follow the same pricing scheme as Sandy->Ivy and he did elude to there being a "premium" with hsw. Not sure why the desktop sku's would inherit a premium being that its only a ~12% bump with better iGPU which most won't care about. Maybe they are putting some value into the fact that the voltage regulator is now internal and the fact that its new architecture. *shrug*
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Or because AMD has no answer to the desktop i7s. The best FXes' gaming performance only shine in Crysis 3 and other heavily threaded games, which is rare since almost all of them use less than eight threads.

Make the money now, just in case if AMD's Steamroller presents a bigger threat to Haswell than Bulldozer to Sandy Bridge.
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I hope they don't gimp it with poor TIM under the IHS just like Ivy did. It's a shame for the people that are too scared to delid theirs!

Looking forward to the benches and providing they clock ok, I'll grab one for my rig!
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I hope they don't gimp it with poor TIM under the IHS just like Ivy did. It's a shame for the people that are too scared to delid theirs!

Looking forward to the benches and providing they clock ok, I'll grab one for my rig!

Perhaps the market for shims (to prevent crushing the delidded dies) would be revived...
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A couple times the presenter was asked if Haswell will follow the same pricing scheme as Sandy->Ivy and he did elude to there being a "premium" with hsw. Not sure why the desktop sku's would inherit a premium being that its only a ~12% bump with better iGPU which most won't care about. Maybe they are putting some value into the fact that the voltage regulator is now internal and the fact that its new architecture. *shrug*

Did the presenter differentiate between Desktop & Laptop pricing? I could definately see Mobile Haswell carry a premium over Ivy epsically for the ultrabook parts with GT3/HD5100 or Laptop parts with GT3e/HD5200, Desktop parts with GT2/HD4600 not so much.
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