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Good comparison -

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-3970X-vs-Intel-Core-i7-3770K

With some overclocking the 3770K is overall pretty formidable depending on the application you are using it for.

If i can get it to 4.8 to 5.0GHz stable on a UP7 i should have no worries for quite a long time.
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A 3770K at 4.8Ghz is a monster
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A 3770K at 4.8Ghz is a monster

The highest Ive had it on my Intel Extreme Board is 4.5GHz but that was using pre set value and i did not like how much voltage was being used.

Everything is under water and i plan on upgrading to the new Koolance 380I CPU water block so that combined with the UP7 will offer max overclocks.
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The highest Ive had it on my Intel Extreme Board is 4.5GHz but that was using pre set value and i did not like how much voltage was being used.

Everything is under water and i plan on upgrading to the new Koolance 380I CPU water block so that combined with the UP7 will offer max overclocks.

If you plan on keeping it for years yeah the high volts can scare you but i upgrade every release so aslong as it gets me to haswell they dont bother me.
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Originally Posted by TranquilTempest View Post

Ivy -> Haswell is supposedly 10-15% better IPC in legacy code.

So just like Bulldozer, no significant difference until you start using the new instruction set addiitions.
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Originally Posted by sherlock View Post

Until you actually post that stuff, I afraid I can't count on your assurance of 95W TDP when all current leak shows otherwise.

Isn't CPUz just drawing from an internal database? It's hardly confirmed because CPUz says so.
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I have a strong feeling that such hopes are highly over optimistic.

I have a feeling it will simply reduce the slight loss in average OCability that happened with Ivy.
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X79 uses Bclk straps to allow for overclocking on locked multi chips like the 3820. With the same straps on Z87 it'll allow a Core I3 to overclock. Probably 34 X 133 = 4.5Ghz

Which is bloody amazing for people like me who prefer to incermentially upgrade rather than buy everything at once, I can get a great board and a cheap i3, OC the snot out of it then get a Broadwell i7 if they come in LGA.
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We still don't have Core i3 spec leaks for Haswell,maybe they are brand new 2 core dies(as there are 5 different dies for Haswell compared to 2 for Ivy) instead of bad i5/i7 dies with 2 core disabled. I am hoping for a 2-bin(200mhz) Turbo at least on the i3 which combined with BCLK strap could mean some high 4Ghz i3s.

I am hoping a 3.4 Ghz i3 with a 3.6Ghz dual core turbo which you can bump the multi a few more bins beyond max dual core turbo, say 3.8Ghz X a 125 BCLK strap = 4.75Ghz.

Definitely, like the i3 was for Sandy and Ivy...But it doesn't mean anything, the bclk straps should still apply unless its an artificial BIOS limitation as opposed to the hardware simply not being capable of it as it is wtih 1155.
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Strictly speaking is not the chipset that allows this, it's the LGA-2011 CPUs and platform.

My current board has a C606 chipset, not an X79, and I still have access to the BCLK straps.

Technically the X79 is a slightly cut-down C606, isn't it?
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Intel could very well give the strap features to K CPUs only, or even only i5s/i7s. I wouldn't count on being able to overclock i3s.

If they do then it'd be limited purely by software and probably would let us have modified BIOS' to enable it on anything from a Celeron to an i7, because the hardware would be capable of it unlike 1155.
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And an integrated voltage regulator. Broadwell, which is a "die-shrink" of Haswell, may have the Southbridge chip integrated as well, so Haswell's socket will not be compatible with the successor if Broadwell is a SoC.

I get the feeling that Broadwell will be concentrating on SoCs, not be exclusively one, so we'd get Broadwell LGA chips but most of Intels sales would be on the BGA chips.
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Actually, ARM is their new main competitor. There's a reason why Intel is going nuts with the power consumption game and throwing lots of cash at the ultrabooks.

Also because the kind of scenarios that truly require a fast CPU tend to be multi-core, so Intel can just bolt extra cores on and be done for performance customers while the vast majority of people (Who don't need much extra performance) get other benefits in power consumption and heat output.
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Frankly this is the worst tock ever IMHO tongue.gif
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=29995

Wow, as they say karma can be a beach.
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Originally Posted by Aquasheep View Post

Well, this sucks:
USB 3.0 problems for Intel's Haswell

Let the guinea pigs buy first, just like with P67.
Edited by Brutuz - 3/2/13 at 5:56pm
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Then tell me why we can't use clock straps with 2011 Xeons?
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How many people who would know how to customize UEFI to disable the block on certain chips and own a Xeon? Maybe Intel found a way to lock it in hardware after all then, but with an i3 there'd be a hell of a lot more people who'd be able to look into it.
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Then tell me why we can't use clock straps with 2011 Xeons?

Kus intel locked them.
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How many people who would know how to customize UEFI to disable the block on certain chips and own a Xeon? Maybe Intel found a way to lock it in hardware after all then, but with an i3 there'd be a hell of a lot more people who'd be able to look into it.

EVGA released the SR-X in anticipation of being able to use the clock straps to overclock Xeons. And got blindsided by Intel with the completely locked down Xeons. If there was a way to do it in the bios, I'm pretty sure they could have leaked "unofficial" support for overclocking.

It's also like asking why the max multiplier is 57, or 43 on non-K models, and why no one has figured out how to raise the multiplier limit.
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