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do i use the IRST instead of the chipset drivers, all V9.0.0.1009 updates is the AHCI driver anyway, all other drivers stay the same.
also i've read that the standerd microsoft AHCI driver thats installed with windows 7 supports TRIM too.

so my options are:

1. MS AHCI
2. MS AHCI + IRST
3. V9.0.0.1009 (which may not support TRIM)
4. V9.0.0.1009 + IRST

which do you think would be best?

also i found this page http://www.swarley.me.uk/blog/2012/08/16/battle-of-the-ssds-intel-330-vs-samsung-830/
the person is using the same MB as me and IRST v10.8.0.1003, where would i get this driver version?
seems a safe bet, or should i use the latest one, even with my old motherbourd?
he also states that the default MS AHCI driver supports TRIM, but its a little slower than the IRST.

i also found this thread at intel http://communities.intel.com/thread/33445
the answer by parsec says that TRIM will work with any driver because it's windows itself that handles it, is this true?

Edit: does anyone think i'll need to update my BIOS? or will 0805 be ok?
Do whatever you like.

  1. MSAHCI driver = TRIM support
  2. Newest IRST driver = TRIM support
  3. Old IRST driver = IDK

You can't have both the IRST and MS driver for the same controller nor can you not have a driver for the controller if you want it to actually function.


If there is an update for your BIOS update it.
post #12 of 25
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thanks for the continued help thumb.gif

ok i've updated my BIOS to version 2101 (newest) and made sure both AHCI and ACPI 2.0 are both enabled, so that should be it BIOS wise?

i think i get it now, the IRST is inplace of the MS AHCI driver and the intel chipset AHCI driver, so all i have to do is install the IRST or leave the MSAHCI driver alone and either way i'll have TRIM support?
as the intel chipset driver version 9.0.0.1009 only updates the AHCI driver on my system, i won't need that, because i'll be using either the MS AHCI or IRST, does this sound wright?

also doesn't the lattest IRST require something in the bios to be of a minimum version, i think it's called ORAM or ORST RAM, i'm really not sure what it's called, hopefully someone knows what i'm talking about?
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thanks for the continued help thumb.gif

ok i've updated my BIOS to version 2101 (newest) and made sure both AHCI and ACPI 2.0 are both enabled, so that should be it BIOS wise?
Yea, or any other settings you can think of as well.
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i think i get it now, the IRST is inplace of the MS AHCI driver and the intel chipset AHCI driver, so all i have to do is install the IRST or leave the MSAHCI driver alone and either way i'll have TRIM support?
Yep
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as the intel chipset driver version 9.0.0.1009 only updates the AHCI driver on my system, i won't need that, because i'll be using either the MS AHCI or IRST, does this sound wright?
chipset is different than the sata driver. that is for all the USB connections and such.
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also doesn't the lattest IRST require something in the bios to be of a minimum version, i think it's called ORAM or ORST RAM, i'm really not sure what it's called, hopefully someone knows what i'm talking about?
OROM or OPROM is what you are referring to. I am not sure what the minimum is, however if it doesn't allow you to install it it could be because of that or because you need netframework 4.0 installed.
post #14 of 25
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i installed the latest IRST and it seems to work fine with my current setup (no ssd yet).

i tried updating to the latest intel chipset drivers after installing the IRST, it said it had completed successfully, but for some reason didn't actually update any of my drivers, odd?
i tried Intel_Chipset_V9111019_XPVistaWin7 and infinst_autol_9.2.3.1022, both had the same result.

but anyway all seems to be working fine with just the IRST.
and TRIM is set to enabled, even though i'm still using the WD6400AAKS.

i've just ordered the samsung 840pro 128GB, should get here tomorrow, hopefully it will work.
i'll post the outcome in a few days.
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i installed the latest IRST and it seems to work fine with my current setup (no ssd yet).

i tried updating to the latest intel chipset drivers after installing the IRST, it said it had completed successfully, but for some reason didn't actually update any of my drivers, odd?
i tried Intel_Chipset_V9111019_XPVistaWin7 and infinst_autol_9.2.3.1022, both had the same result.

but anyway all seems to be working fine with just the IRST.
and TRIM is set to enabled, even though i'm still using the WD6400AAKS.

i've just ordered the samsung 840pro 128GB, should get here tomorrow, hopefully it will work.
i'll post the outcome in a few days.
chipset driver is different than the IRST sata driver. They are for different purposes. Thus one does not replace the other.
post #16 of 25
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yeah i'm still using intel chipset driver version 9.0.0.1009 and the latest IRST.
problem is after installing the IRST i can no longer update my chipset drivers from v9.0.0.1009 to v9111019 or even v9.2.3.1022, it says it installed successfully, but it doesn't actually update any drivers?

i guess i'll have to uninstall the IRST, then update my chipset drivers, then re-install the IRST again.
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post #17 of 25
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ok, i uninstalled the IRST, and restored the AHCI driver back to the default microsoft AHCI driver.

then i installed the intel chipset drivers again. this time the only driver to update was the AHCI driver, this was the case for both versions v9111019 and v9.2.3.1022.
so obviously everything else was already upto date.

using the IRST again it updates the AHCI driver to a newer version than what is used by infinst_autol_9.2.3.1022.

so in short, when i re-install windows 7 on the SSD, all i'll need to install is the asus ATK0110 and the latest IRST. as windows 7 already has upto date drivers for everything else on the p5q-e smile.gif

btw: does net framework 4.0 need to be installed before the intel rapid storage?
should i run windows update for the first time, before or after installing the IRST?

thanks again thumb.gif
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ok, i uninstalled the IRST, and restored the AHCI driver back to the default microsoft AHCI driver.

then i installed the intel chipset drivers again. this time the only driver to update was the AHCI driver, this was the case for both versions v9111019 and v9.2.3.1022.
so obviously everything else was already upto date.

using the IRST again it updates the AHCI driver to a newer version than what is used by infinst_autol_9.2.3.1022.

so in short, when i re-install windows 7 on the SSD, all i'll need to install is the asus ATK0110 and the latest IRST. as windows 7 already has upto date drivers for everything else on the p5q-e smile.gif

btw: does net framework 4.0 need to be installed before the intel rapid storage?
b4, windows update installs it.
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should i run windows update for the first time, before or after installing the IRST?

thanks again thumb.gif
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post #19 of 25
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ok, thanks you've been REALLY helpful smile.gif

btw: i've been reading through your guide's, impressive work thumb.gif

does anyone know if the IRST tends to be more or less stable than the default microsoft AHCI controller?
if the MS AHCI is more stable i may just leave it alone, provided i'm happy with the performance i get from it.
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ok, thanks you've been REALLY helpful smile.gif

btw: i've been reading through your guide's, impressive work thumb.gif

does anyone know if the IRST tends to be more or less stable than the default microsoft AHCI controller?
if the MS AHCI is more stable i may just leave it alone, provided i'm happy with the performance i get from it.
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