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I have yet to see anyone showing detailed graphs,charts, information from sources on the process, and showing of cpu's bottlnecking graphics cards on what games, settings, resolutions, and crossfire/sli setups. You need a full analytical, and factual summary of comparison. Everyone is just spouting out random things with no proof.

It really does make everyone in this thread look severely uneducated in the matter.
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EVEN at 4GHZ a FX-8350 won't bottleneck a 7970/GTX 680. EVEN with CROSSFIRED 7970's it will not bottleneck. Look @ this thread done by two members. It was locked due to a crazy amount of immature fan boys.


http://www.overclock.net/t/1333027/amd-fx-8350-vs-i5-3570k-delidded-single-gpu-and-crossfire-gpu


Also look @ TechSpots Far Cry 3 benchmarks, the FX-8350 sits 1 FRAME behind the Ivy Bridge Core i5.



Not to mention red1776 who runs QUAD-FIRE 7970's and doesn't get any bottlenecking at all. He's sitting up in this chart with the kings. A LEGEND AMONG MEN. Or simply someone who didn't buy into the ridiculous BS that's been spread through-out this site recently.






Honestly, I could give two cares whether you buy Intel, AMD, or even VIA but for the love of all that's good...please stop spouting a bunch of ridiculously false information around. All it does is cause mass confusion. Nobody can suggest a FX-8350 on this site without getting a bunch of ridiculous non-sense being said about it. It's a good processor that directly competes with the 3570K
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Im trying to find a thread/post with a user called Red1776 who runs 4 7970's on his 8350 and he gets no bottlenecking.

Hes even into the top 10 of the heaven benchmarks and the only 8350 user in there.

Yes its a whole load of nonsense this silly debate. Its all about the situation, the game and the refresh rate. Even a high end ivy/sandy cpu can bottleneck in the right situations. The vishera cpu is proved more than capable in pretty much all gpu situations to be a competent gamer at the market level where it is placed for the everyday user. The real high end users that run ££££££ of graphics set ups wouldn't use a £150 cpu anyway.
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I had an FX 8320 @ 4.7ghz just a few months ago. a stock i5 3570k outperformed an FX 8320 at 4.7ghz in planetside 2. with that said. ALL of the games I played aside from planetside 2 felt the same. very impressive considering the price

Very true. Planetside 2 is so unoptimized that it feels like the devs only made the game use one core, but it manages to munch up 6GiB of RAM every time I play it.
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EVEN at 4GHZ a FX-8350 won't bottleneck a 7970/GTX 680. EVEN with CROSSFIRED 7970's it will not bottleneck. Look @ this thread done by two members. It was locked due to a crazy amount of immature fan boys.


http://www.overclock.net/t/1333027/amd-fx-8350-vs-i5-3570k-delidded-single-gpu-and-crossfire-gpu



Also look @ TechSpots Far Cry 3 benchmarks, the FX-8350 sits 1 FRAME behind the Ivy Bridge Core i5.



Not to mention red1776 who runs QUAD-FIRE 7970's and doesn't get any bottlenecking at all. He's sitting up in this chart with the kings. A LEGEND AMONG MEN. Or simply someone who didn't buy into the ridiculous BS.




This is an example of how a OCN forum member should be giving information to someone in need. +REP
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He has the lowest 7970 quad fire score on that list. Quite far from the top still.

Also some of the professional reviews don't really paint the same image: http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-fx-8350-vs-intel-core-i7-3770k--4.8ghz--multi-gpu-gaming-performance/17494.html

I'm not saying that you don't get an enjoyable experience but to claim that AMD CPUs can drive all GPU setups as well as intel ones is a bit far fetched. If that were the case, we'd have hwbot's heaven, 3dm11, etc. top rankings filled with AMD based systems. Even though AMD chips clock higher the top spots are held by 6ghz+ 3770Ks and 5.5ghz+ SB-Es.
 
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He has the lowest 7970 quad fire score on that list. Quite far from the top still.

Also some of the professional reviews don't really paint the same image: http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-fx-8350-vs-intel-core-i7-3770k--4.8ghz--multi-gpu-gaming-performance/17494.html

I'm not saying that you don't get an enjoyable experience but to claim that AMD CPUs can drive all GPU setups as well as intel ones is a bit far fetched. If that were the case, we'd have hwbot's heaven, 3dm11, etc. top rankings filled with AMD based systems. Even though AMD chips clock higher the top spots are held by 6ghz+ 3770Ks and 5.5ghz+ SB-Es.


The point was to point out that it will not bottleneck like-crazy with multi-GPU setups. I acknowledge that it has the lowest Quad-Card score, however it doesn't appear to be struggling in any significant way. The amount of people who run quad cards is so minimal that it won't really matter. I am by no means trying to say that the FX-8350 will destroy the competition, I am simply saying that it competes and it's a viable choice regardless of the situation.

Review sites don't paint the same image is exactly right. However you put these chips into the hands of independent reviewers and you get much different results and a bigger variety of games being tested. I'm sick of seeing games like Starcraft 2 being ran @ 1024 x 768 being considered a "gaming benchmark" IF you have a Core i5 3570k/FX-8350...or any modern system for that matter...you better be playing on a modern resolution.
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He has the lowest 7970 quad fire score on that list. Quite far from the top still.

Also some of the professional reviews don't really paint the same image: http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-fx-8350-vs-intel-core-i7-3770k--4.8ghz--multi-gpu-gaming-performance/17494.html

I'm not saying that you don't get an enjoyable experience but to claim that AMD CPUs can drive all GPU setups as well as intel ones is a bit far fetched. If that were the case, we'd have hwbot's heaven, 3dm11, etc. top rankings filled with AMD based systems. Even though AMD chips clock higher the top spots are held by 6ghz+ 3770Ks and 5.5ghz+ SB-Es.

I agree 100% and this thread has been taken off topic by a question from the op that is too vague to answer definitively. Is heaven not also gpu intense? and those scores/charts do not show if any of those cpu/gpu combinations had a bottleneck or not unless backed by gpu/cpu useage data.

The op needs to inform us of his resolution, refresh rate and the games he will be playing to give answers that are relevant to his situation
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Heaven 3.0 is very gpu dependant. I got pretty much the same score with a 3960x @4.7Ghz compared to 5.1Ghz. Similar clocks on my gtx680.




Heaven isn't a good indicator of bottlenecks imo.
    
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I thought so, its pointless talking about cpu bottlenecks and using a gpu bound bench to do so.

For example bf3 sp is gpu bound, I can max my 2x7870 no problem and probably more, switch to multiplayer though and I watch the gpu utilisation fall somewhat, but then at the refresh rate I play of 60hz producing minimum frame rates of 80fps avg of 100 and max of 150 the bottleneck is irrelative.


This whole debate is repeated over and over again by people whom will never use the high end hardware to see the bottleneck to any discernible level in most relevant gaming situations. Most of the games on the market today cant even take advantage of the high end hardware available.
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