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Thanks for you reply popups smile.gif hopefully i'll get my mouse tomorrow and i can post some feedback how it behaves on my mousepad (using an black ozone). If i don't like LOD (besides it's shape, buying this mouse based on some comments here on OCN, and i'm not sure i'll like it or it's going to be comfortable, after having a bad experience with xai, hand cramping), i'll try to buy a red or blue mousepad, if i can find any on a pc store near my house..
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Thanks for you reply popups smile.gif hopefully i'll get my mouse tomorrow and i can post some feedback how it behaves on my mousepad (using an black ozone). If i don't like LOD (besides it's shape, buying this mouse based on some comments here on OCN, and i'm not sure i'll like it or it's going to be comfortable, after having a bad experience with xai, hand cramping), i'll try to buy a red or blue mousepad, if i can find any on a pc store near my house..
If you want higher LOD without buying a special mouse pad you can take of the lens filter/reflector. That would be the better way to go. You never know if the mouse pad is going to work like you want it to until you test it.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1351759/zowie-fk/220_20#post_19358510
Edited by popups - 8/22/13 at 11:23pm
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If you want higher LOD without buying a special mouse pad you can take of the lens filter/reflector. That would be the better way to go. You never know if the mouse pad is going to work like you want it to until you test it.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1351759/zowie-fk/220_20#post_19358510

You mentioned that there is a side effect of that- mouse feels delayed when changing direction. Why do you recommend removing the lense then if this (supposedly) creates a delay which is a far worse of a thing even than too low lift-off? I'm really curious about this and will probably try it myself but I'm still waiting for a new pad I ordered to see if the lift off is any better than on black QCK.

Also can removing the filter be easly reverted without using any tools or anything? How is the filter part connected to the rest of the lens?
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You mentioned that there is a side effect of that- mouse feels delayed when changing direction. Why do you recommend removing the lense then if this (supposedly) creates a delay which is a far worse of a thing even than too low lift-off? I'm really curious about this and will probably try it myself but I'm still waiting for a new pad I ordered to see if the lift off is any better than on black QCK.

Also can removing the filter be easly reverted without using any tools or anything? How is the filter part connected to the rest of the lens?

I think you have to break it off, so no going back from that.
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Nah, just pops out. Female/male insert. It's a reversible process if desired.

I haven't experienced a "delay", nor see how thats possible. Characteristics of path is another story.
Edited by Skylit - 8/23/13 at 4:42am
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If you want higher LOD without buying a special mouse pad you can take of the lens filter/reflector. That would be the better way to go. You never know if the mouse pad is going to work like you want it to until you test it.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1351759/zowie-fk/220_20#post_19358510

I have seen your post, but couldn't understand very well the "foil" part... Did you use that kitchen wrap aluminium foil? or a specific foil?
I'm not going to do that for now, also not very handy to those kinds of work..
first have to see if i like the shape, than dpi steps, and then LOD tongue.gif
(already know that mouse arrived... can't wait to get home to try it out.. i'm at work now, just at evening i'm going to lay hands on this puppy wink.gif)
Thanks for your help popups.
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I have seen your post, but couldn't understand very well the "foil" part... Did you use that kitchen wrap aluminium foil? or a specific foil?
I'm not going to do that for now, also not very handy to those kinds of work..
first have to see if i like the shape, than dpi steps, and then LOD tongue.gif
(already know that mouse arrived... can't wait to get home to try it out.. i'm at work now, just at evening i'm going to lay hands on this puppy wink.gif)
Thanks for your help popups.
When you take off that piece it changes the path of light. With some mouse pads the light doesn't make it back to the sensor the way it should. Resulting in the sensor thinking it isn't moving, that is the "delay" I am referring to. Also, depending on the pad, it can skip/jitter because of what I just explained. All of this is solved when you use the foil.

I use normal foil you get at the store. I made sure to take out any wrinkles, so the light bounces off nicely. All you need is some thin tape, foil and a needle. The needle is to help bend the foil into place. Maybe you can do it without the the needle... The picture in that post shows the angle and size to copy for best results.

The piece is a separate part of the lens that snaps into place. So, you can always put it back. Taking it off will also help with cleaning the lens.
Edited by popups - 8/24/13 at 2:10pm
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So got this mouse yesterday, and here's my inicial and personnal info smile.gif
Played a couple of hours with it on cs source and BF3, and so far i like it...
Can't say it's my dream mouse (especially because of dpi), but for now i'm still adjusting to shape and dpi steps ( i can say 100% sure if only it had the 800dpi step it would be perfect smile.gif)...
It's shape it's comfortable to palm grip for medium hands, doesn't make my hand cramp (at least for now) and i can place my ring and pinkie finger in the right side easily, the clicks feel crispy, and scrollwheel is ok (for some reason it feels a bit "heavier" to scroll up than down, but maybe it's because we tend to scroll more down than up?... and it's still new).
LOD isn't a big deal like i was a little bit affraid and i kind of like it.
The side buttons are a little strange, they should be more noticeable (like deathadder or g400), but again i only used it for a couple of hours..
Cable is good, but aparentely, it's difficult to stay straight lol
So now i got a question smile.gif i have a 120hz monitor, which polling rate should i use, 500 or 1000? just asking because on g400 i had it default and it was great (compared to DA on 1000, it didn't feel the same, kind of laggy..)
Edited by Snakesoul - 8/24/13 at 1:59pm
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The scroll wheel has two springs on each end. Depending on the QC they can have different strength.

I want to experiment with weakening the spring and removing the play with the scroll wheel. This should give me an easier scroll and a better feel. Similar to a mechanical.

I think Zowie could improve the design and make it a nice wheel if they wanted to.



The cable can be straightened with a certain technique you may not want to do. It involves heat... I did it. The cable came out more flexible and I was able to straighten it well.

Use it on 1000Hz to get "stable" polling compared to the 500Hz setting. The 500Hz setting isn't bad. The 125Hz setting should be good if you want to use it. The polling rates you use are not to important unless you are using raw input and a low (input) latency monitor. Having a 120Hz monitor doesn't mean you have a low input latency monitor. If you have something like a BenQ -- 500Hz or 1000Hz is good.
Edited by popups - 8/24/13 at 2:31pm
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Thanks for your reply popups smile.gif i read your way to cable straight and it's a little bit difficult to do tongue.gif not that i can't do it, but it's a little bit risky smile.gif
Well i'm using it at 1000hz (have a benq monitor) and i don't see any problem...but i'm not that picky (comparing to shape).
The only problem i see right now is making this mouse playable on available dpi... :S i usually play 800dpi and 2 sens - G400. At cs source and i do pretty well, but with zowie it's kind of hard to get the mouse work like before (the test i did and i think it's the right one, is to shoot one spot, place mouse on the left of mouse pad, go all the way to the right, shoot again, all of this with G400 and then change to zowie, decrease sensitivity to see if i can get near the 2nd shot...is this method correct?)
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