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post #41 of 2197
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Originally Posted by popups View Post

The max speed is fine. The CPI is more like 500 not 450. The Kingsis lens increases LOD on red cloth mouse pads, whereas the standard lens on a DeathAdder reduces LOD on red.

That completely depends on actual LED and surfacing. DPI isn't a "set" value.
post #42 of 2197
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

That completely depends on actual LED and surfacing. DPI isn't a "set" value.

Sure, but I don't think the LED variance and typical cloth pads (with exception of color) are going to change CPI very much over the claimed 450.

25 more counts is noticeable and 50 is very noticeable. From my experience with 4 eVos the CPI could be as high as 22 above the said 450; whereas the AM was more like 58 above.

We can never really know unless Kingsis tells us how they measured CPI.
post #43 of 2197
That would indicate a slight height change between the two models as you may assume.

The measurements would be a simple calculation based on height distance like I mentioned in our PM. There's nothing really special about this biggrin.gif

The problem with finding a "real number" is that there are multiple variables that effect such distance... Also factor in that AM came out first.

Even if off, a max DPI estimate of 2300 has a nicer presentation than some random number. Same could go for the "450" step which wouldn't be evenly calculated off of the higher "2300 DPI" resolution.

The problem with your lift off statement goes hand and hand with the above. Since Deathadder uses a completely different LED, the lens factor isn't exactly proven. Also consider that alternative LEDs of the same color aren't equal.

In the end, it seems as if Zowie is quite happy of their decisions regardless of what is brought up on forums.

I just think or rather know they could do better, but refuse ^^
Edited by Skylit - 1/22/13 at 6:26am
post #44 of 2197
I don't get the hate on the AM. I have tried all of the well know mice and prefer the AM for competitive fps games. I experience no flaws in tacking at 450 cpi step.

- Very low lift off distance
- No acceleration
- No prediction
- No jitter
- Claw grip
Edited by Makav3li - 1/22/13 at 6:49am
post #45 of 2197
Well the focal length and diameter of the lens can explain why the LOD effect with red, compared to say blue mouse pads, is reversed.

Why is Kingsis so stubborn to change the hardware? Who knows. Maybe they just want to keep all the money instead of improving the product. Why work hard when you don't have to, I guess.
post #46 of 2197
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Originally Posted by Makav3li View Post

I don't get the hate on the AM. I have tried all of the well know mice and prefer the AM for competitive fps games. I experience no flaws in tacking at 450 cpi step.

- Very low lift off distance
- No acceleration
- No prediction
- No jitter
- Claw grip

The problem is: max tracking speed is too low (for me at least)
And I don't like Huanos, although I could live with that.
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post #47 of 2197
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i'm thinking of changing my mouse since savu's max tracking speed is too low for me unless i use it on a hardpad. how is zowie am's tracking speed? better than savu?
post #48 of 2197
Depends on surface.

They'll trade off (tracking loss, doubt enotus will detect), but Savu has more IPS potential, provided you have no issue w/ lift off distance.
Edited by Skylit - 1/22/13 at 7:35am
post #49 of 2197
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Originally Posted by SyahmiX View Post

i'm thinking of changing my mouse since savu's max tracking speed is too low for me unless i use it on a hardpad. how is zowie am's tracking speed? better than savu?

My Savu has max tracking speeds of >4m/s, both on the Puretrak Talent and the Steelseries NP+. The best results were on the NP+. See here and here

Just make sure to use it at 400 or 800 CPI.

The only source of tracking speed for the AM I have is Ramla777s review on youtube, he states that it has a max Tracking speed of 3.3m/s @ 2300 CPI, but that is probably surface dependent and might be more or less for you.
Edited by Ino. - 1/22/13 at 7:32am
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post #50 of 2197
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Originally Posted by Makav3li View Post

I don't get the hate on the AM. I have tried all of the well know mice and prefer the AM for competitive fps games. I experience no flaws in tacking at 450 cpi step.

- Very low lift off distance
- No acceleration
- No prediction
- No jitter
- Claw grip


Not hating, but it's not for me personally.

- AM is very hard to lift for me due to it's shape
- Switches are imo not good for competitive fps gaming.
- Non native dpi levels, except 2300, which is jittery and too high dpi step anyway to use as a main dpi
- Non default lens
- Can't upgrade firmware
- I'd like DPI changer button on top of the mouse
- Slightly too heavy. Would prefer in the 7x g range
- Max speeds too low
- The LOD is too low

I'm not saying it's a bad mouse. Infact it's good. But it could be better. I've used it a year or so now. It has served me well, but it's time to move on for me.

I can't really say what or why, but the tracking doesn't feel as good as on DA in my opinion.
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