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post #411 of 2197
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Originally Posted by Ino. View Post

Thanks for the info, no buy for me then. Still waiting for BST's mice and the G100s smile.gif

Yeah no go for me either. Got bone dry hands....looking forward to BSt's and G100s.
post #412 of 2197
If you have dry hands and hate the grip but otherwise like the mouse you could try putting electrical or clear tape on the mouse. Personally I only sweat on my fingers so if I have a rubber-coated mouse (like this deathadder black edition) I put some electrical tape on the back of it. I like the rubber coating on the fingers though so I don't put it on the sides or on the buttons. Here's a picture (wow that was a low light photo, looked decent on my phone's screen):





If you don't like it you can easily peel it off and just wipe the residue. It also lasts quite a few months until it starts to come off.
post #413 of 2197
As I said before about rubber coatings, you can use clear tape to mimic a glossy surface. I have taped the sides and rear of the DeathAdder BE. I cut the tape to the shape of the DeathAdder. My other mice are glossy, so I do not have to do that.

If I can no longer wait I will do the same with the FK. However, I have been waiting this long to buy a FK because there isn't a white version. I should be able to wait some more.

The FK has tapered sides. So there shouldn't be much of an issue lifting it even with the coating.

(You are slipping Zowie. Hurry up and bring out a white version. You will sell a lot more FKs.)
post #414 of 2197
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Originally Posted by CtrlAltel1te View Post

I have my FK now for over a month, not enjoying it anymore only using it at work switches are okay but omron's feels definity better for me.
They say its more for clawgripping but I dont find it comfortable I feel that my savu and cm storm spawn are better shaped towards my clawgrip.
Mousewheel feels to hard to spin overal I find the mouse way to overpriced at seeing what you can get for the money in the market at the moment. Tracking wise its okay but then again my savu feels way better.
The best postitive things I can mention is it lod and the nice yellow colour wich I find a nice change seeing almost everytime blue and red.

coating is a preference I find it okay not super, but if you have very dry hands the mouse will be slippery if you sweat a little youre hand will have a nice firm grip because of the vacume it gets with the coating can't explain it any better it just seems the grip gets better if you hands are not to dry.

This is what I fear. I hate the wheel in the AM, which actually was my main critique point way before the sides and stiff buttons. Can't wait to get away from such ****ty wheel design, but now I hear from people that the wheel on the FK isn't good either. Holy momma of god, can't they just make a good wheel for once?
I think mouse is overpriced, but the improved shape and lighter switches kind of convinced me, but with a bad wheel, no deal I'm afraid.

I still hate Roccat for going with such a ****ty shape with the Savu (personal opinion of course). I think their Lua mouse has awesome shape and weight, but obviously it's tiny and has no side buttons. Gosh can't the people not just make a simple good ambidextrous mouse (personal opinion)?

Bst takes forever. frown.gif Mah money is sittin' loose and nobody wants to have it. Alright.
post #415 of 2197
The wheel design has been the same for what, a decade?

I personally like the fact it has 16 notches over the typical 24. Yes, it is more difficult to break free when it is in the detent. If I can get a very distinct scroll wheel with 16 notches, yet smoother, I will be happy. I guess Logitech does it (concept is similar) better, but it has a higher number of notches. I wonder how it would feel to use weaker springs in the Kingsis wheel.
Edited by popups - 4/2/13 at 3:17pm
post #416 of 2197
I find Zowie's encoder extremely annoying when you want to scroll fast. Not as much of an issue if you're not spamming to navigate on webpages/certain games.

Logitech's optical design is a bit different. Reminisce of below design. Concept is similar, though inverted.



Scrolling itself is achieved with a thin bendable metal pin rotating around teeth (notches). Easy to modify feedback though plastic will eventually wear. Less defined.
post #417 of 2197
Yeah, the fast scrolling is really bad. With my Diamondback I can fly through pages, yet can clearly select guns in games. I'd generally wish for a bit more pronounced steps on the Diamondback, but I find it is still better than the super stiff Zowie wheel (it's stiff, I need to put more force on it to scroll, while with other mice I need less).
post #418 of 2197
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Originally Posted by resis View Post

Yeah, the fast scrolling is really bad. With my Diamondback I can fly through pages, yet can clearly select guns in games. I'd generally wish for a bit more pronounced steps on the Diamondback, but I find it is still better than the super stiff Zowie wheel (it's stiff, I need to put more force on it to scroll, while with other mice I need less).

I do NOT care about fast scrolling with a gaming mouse. That is why I like the 16 detentes over the 24. I buy a "gaming" mouse not for the web surfing experience. There are a lot of Microsoft mice that are made for that.

The 16 detent design reduces the possibility of over scrolling in game by spacing out each detent. Unlike the 24/+ detent design. The more detentes the smoother the feeling and it can make it easier to scroll. However, I don't want to accidentally scroll 3 times when I wanted to scroll two.
Edited by popups - 4/2/13 at 11:54pm
post #419 of 2197
Everyone has their own preferences. Lets leave it at that.
post #420 of 2197
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Originally Posted by popups View Post

I do NOT care about fast scrolling with a gaming mouse. That is why I like the 16 indents over the 24. I buy a "gaming" mouse not for the web surfing experience. There are a lot of Microsoft mice that are made for that.

The 16 indent design reduces the possibility of over scrolling in game by spacing out each indent. Unlike the 24/+ indent design. The more indents the smoother the feeling and it can make it easier to scroll. However, I don't want to accidentally scroll 3 times when I wanted to scroll two.

You have a point. I guess that was Zowie's main thinking behind the design and I admit the steps are very well pronounced, which I consider a good design. My problem with the AM scroll wheel is mainly that it sits too tight. If I have a bit less dry finger tips, than it gets harder to move it, need to really press on it slightly to move it, or actually use the nail to put them in the wheel notches to move it. Not very practical and the wheel is generally horribly loud.
I know the EC eVo's have a bit different design (size), but the ones I tested had easier to scroll wheels and worked well.

Well, I may still try the FK, hope the wheel just doesn't sit too tight.

Also, I guess my problem is, that I buy one mouse, I use one mouse. For years if necessary (usually). So I guess I am looking for a good allrounder. May this be my problem? I can't think of it to be that difficult. Well, Roccat Savu was a great mouse on all accounts, just the shape. frown.gif
Edited by resis - 4/2/13 at 5:45pm
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