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GPU size:
I wonder if they will be shrinking the die size, because the K20X is specced with a GPU size of 45x45mm, that's a whopping 2025mm² compared to the GK104's die with 294mm², almost seven times larger. With "only" double as many transistors, I wonder what they need all that space for if it also has 28nm fabrication, unless the K20X's GPU size means it has a massive heatspreader on it rolleyes.gif

Energy efficiency:
The K20X is rated at 235W TDP with 732MHz. The GTX690 is specced to 300W at 915MHz. both have the same amount of transistors.
The GK110 then gets 3.11MHz/W, whereas the GK104 gets 3.05MHz/W. Not that much more efficient considering it only has one die.

A rough estimation of GK110s die size would be just shy of 600mm^2.
 
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Originally Posted by Rayce185 View Post

GPU size:
I wonder if they will be shrinking the die size, because the K20X is specced with a GPU size of 45x45mm, that's a whopping 2025mm² compared to the GK104's die with 294mm², almost seven times larger. With "only" double as many transistors, I wonder what they need all that space for if it also has 28nm fabrication, unless the K20X's GPU size means it has a massive heatspreader on it rolleyes.gif

Energy efficiency:
The K20X is rated at 235W TDP with 732MHz. The GTX690 is specced to 300W at 915MHz. both have the same amount of transistors.
The GK110 then gets 3.11MHz/W, whereas the GK104 gets 3.05MHz/W. Not that much more efficient considering it only has one die.

45mmx45mm obviously is not the die size.
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Hydrocopper are just stock 690 PCB with a EK 690 Block &a EVGA sticker, still no aftermarket air solutions from AIBs. Plus Nvidia's restriction on 690 came out around the same time as Greenlight, Hydrocopper 690 came out before that so it is not affected.

I said nothing about 670, it is on 690 that Nvidia drew the line and declared no card shall pass ref 690, thus no ROG Mars III

What stops people like Arctic is the cost of those coolers and the necessity to install them yourselves, Aftermarket coolers like TFIV, DC2, WF3 comes pre-attached at a small or no premium compared to Arctic.

...Those (DCII, TFIIII, etc) are not aftermarket coolers. Aftermarket, is exactly as the term states... after the sale. Which is what Arctic sell. It has never been an issue to fit them yourselves, just like the waterblocks for watercooling!

Thinking about it, I haven't seen any for Kepler cards, but that doesn't mean Arctic or other aftermarket cooling designers can't make them. NVidia can't stop that.

EDIT:

http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/detail/index/sArticle/554/sCategory/2182

Yep, Arctic make some nice coolers. Though,. none for the GTX690 I see, even though they aren't bound by the Greenlight stuff.
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GPU size:
I wonder if they will be shrinking the die size, because the K20X is specced with a GPU size of 45x45mm, that's a whopping 2025mm² compared to the GK104's die with 294mm², almost seven times larger. With "only" double as many transistors, I wonder what they need all that space for if it also has 28nm fabrication, unless the K20X's GPU size means it has a massive heatspreader on it rolleyes.gif

Energy efficiency:
The K20X is rated at 235W TDP with 732MHz. The GTX690 is specced to 300W at 915MHz. both have the same amount of transistors.
The GK110 then gets 3.11MHz/W, whereas the GK104 gets 3.05MHz/W. Not that much more efficient considering it only has one die.

thats the heatspreader mostly. the die size is rumoured to be 550 - 600 sq mm.

http://www.techpowerup.com/162765/GK110-Specifications-Approximated.html

exact die size has still not been revealed.
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45mmx45mm obviously is not the die size.
Nevermind tongue.gif

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thats the heatspreader mostly. the die size is rumoured to be 550 - 600 sq mm.

http://www.techpowerup.com/162765/GK110-Specifications-Approximated.html

exact die size has still not been revealed.
Since the K20x has 7.1b transistors instead of nearly 6b as that article suggests, I'll go with Alatar: Probably double the size of the GK104, since it has double the transistors...
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Cool, looking forward to see what the price tag say.. And benchmarks smile.gif
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regular people still buy nvidia cards not to over clock but to use in a stock fashion to play games....

enthusiasts make up what 1-2 percent of all computer users?

This.

There's no money to be made from the ultra high-end enthusiasts. tongue.gif
     
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