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Maybe I am "misremembering."

But didn't Nvidia say theywaited for AMD to bring out the flagship 7xxx series first. And then they where "disappointed" by how it performed?

Here is where my conspirosry theriost comes in.

Nvidia found out thier "mid range chip" held its ground with AMD's top of the line. So Nvidia changed thier "mid range" and named it "high end" and priced it that way.

So in the end Nvidia made boats load of cash off of these and pushed back the real "high end" until now.

I understand business' are out to make a profit but what they did was wrong to the consumer. And oh yeah. I still contributed to thier oars so they could make it up stream.

Will I get a 7xx series or whatever they are going to call it? Yep, but this time only after the 8xx series come out and they lower the price of the 7xx.

I know rant and probably wrong. Can I prove any of it? Nope.
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I'm thinking 85% of the 690 ain't all that great.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the 680 and 7970 are already 60-70% of the 690.

Maybe my math is off, little tipsy ATM
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post #343 of 833
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Originally Posted by antonio8 View Post

Maybe I am "misremembering."

But didn't Nvidia say theywaited for AMD to bring out the flagship 7xxx series first. And then they where "disappointed" by how it performed?

Here is where my conspirosry theriost comes in.

Nvidia found out thier "mid range chip" held its ground with AMD's top of the line. So Nvidia changed thier "mid range" and named it "high end" and priced it that way.

So in the end Nvidia made boats load of cash off of these and pushed back the real "high end" until now.

I understand business' are out to make a profit but what they did was wrong to the consumer. And oh yeah. I still contributed to thier oars so they could make it up stream.

Will I get a 7xx series or whatever they are going to call it? Yep, but this time only after the 8xx series come out and they lower the price of the 7xx.

I know rant and probably wrong. Can I prove any of it? Nope.

Your theory doesn't make sense. NVIDIA profits mostly off of the professional markets (Quadro and Tesla) in which they have little competition regardless. They had no reason to not release GK100 for that market since it's not like they ever really had to care about ATI/AMD's products in that segment. Just look at the current situation; they're already shipping GK110 Teslas despite having no real competition from AMD (despite that pretty foot-long three-fan 375W TDP dual-GPU monster that outperforms the K20X by 5-10% in theoreticals and has little to no software support... no, I'm not exaggerating).
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I'm thinking 85% of the 690 ain't all that great.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the 680 and 7970 are already 60-70% of the 690.

Maybe my math is off, little tipsy ATM

The 7970 GHz Edition is delivers around 60-65% and the 680 delivers around 55% the performance of the 690.
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(despite that pretty foot-long three-fan 375W TDP dual-GPU monster that outperforms the K20X by 5-1% in theoreticals and has little to no software support... no, I'm not exaggerating).
5-10?

my mistake; edited
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Your theory doesn't make sense. NVIDIA profits mostly off of the professional markets (Quadro and Tesla) in which they have little competition regardless. They had no reason to not release GK100 for that market since it's not like they ever really had to care about ATI/AMD's products in that segment. Just look at the current situation; they're already shipping GK110 Teslas despite having no real competition from AMD (despite that pretty foot-long three-fan 375W TDP dual-GPU monster that outperforms the K20X by 5-10% in theoreticals and has little to no software support... no, I'm not exaggerating).
The 7970 GHz Edition is delivers around 60-65% and the 680 delivers around 55% the performance of the 690.

Still not as impressive as some are making it out to be.

OC'ing both the 7970 and 680 will close the gap considerably.

Now how well this rumored Titan OCs , time will tell.

But you know darn well a 1200-1250 Tahiti will be closer to 70%.

If AMD can massage another 40% out of Tahiti, we're back where we are today.
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I'm thinking 85% of the 690 ain't all that great.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the 680 and 7970 are already 60-70% of the 690.

Maybe my math is off, little tipsy ATM
According to TPU actually yes.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_690/28.html
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And that was before the GHz editions were released...
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According to TPU actually yes.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_690/28.html
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And that was before the GHz editions were released...

That's with lower resolutions factored in... if you look at higher resolutions (the ones that people use $1000 graphics cards with) the gap is wider.
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Yeah, but it didn't happen because this chip didn't exist at the time.

As others said, by wipe AMD out I hope you mean something like when NVIDIA released the 8800 cards... ATI wasn't relevant at all in that price range but they still had cheap cards on the market.

Yeah that's kind of what I mean. I just see people say things like Nvidia had it all ready but didn't need to release such a powerful GPU which makes no sense to me.
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I'm thinking 85% of the 690 ain't all that great.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the 680 and 7970 are already 60-70% of the 690.

Maybe my math is off, little tipsy ATM

That is only one side of the coin though. You must take the overclocking potential into consideration as it might have significantly more headroom than GK104, also GK110 has 384-bit bus which will help it more than GTX 690 at high resolutions.
I think they will clock it really low out of the box to not violate the power envelop they are targeting...
But I just don't like the price and hope it end up a rumor. otherwise my next card will be AMD too...
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