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Originally Posted by grunion View Post

Still not as impressive as some are making it out to be.

OC'ing both the 7970 and 680 will close the gap considerably.

Now how well this rumored Titan OCs , time will tell.

But you know darn well a 1200-1250 Tahiti will be closer to 70%.

If AMD can massage another 40% out of Tahiti, we're back where we are today.

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That is only one side of the coin though. You must take the overclocking potential into consideration as it might have significantly more headroom than GK104, also GK110 has 384-bit bus which will help it more than GTX 690 at high resolutions.
I think they will clock it really low out of the box to not violate the power envelop they are targeting...
But I just don't like the price and hope it end up a rumor. otherwise my next card will be AMD too...

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post #352 of 833
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The name is high end.
The price is high end.
The marketing is high end.

The stuff inside is mid-range.

Nvidia sold us a great performing mid-range chip that was pushed to it's max and sold it at flagship prices. It's probably why they also locked it. Do you not see anything wrong with that?

If it performs high-end, then it is high-end. It competes with the high-end AMD card, so it is high-end pretty much by definition.
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That's with lower resolutions factored in... if you look at higher resolutions (the ones that people use $1000 graphics cards with) the gap is wider.
Only slightly. Even at 1600p the 680 is registering at 59% of the 690. Not exactly far off from Grunion's guestimated 60-70%
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That is only one side of the coin though. You must take the overclocking potential into consideration as it might have significantly more headroom than GK104, also GK110 has 384-bit bus which will help it more than GTX 690 at high resolutions.
I think they will clock it really low out of the box to not violate the power envelop they are targeting...
Yeah. With these rumored specs, I'd imagine these things will suck some serious juice when overvolting comes into play. These things have nearly the same rumored TDP as 580s no? It'll be like the good old Fermi days!
post #354 of 833
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Originally Posted by Booty Warrior View Post

Only slightly. Even at 1600p the 680 is registering at 59% of the 690. Not exactly far off from Grunion's guestimated 60-70%

Still makes it 40% faster than a GTX 680, which is no slouch. Lot better than the GTX 680 over the 580.
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If it performs high-end, then it is high-end. It competes with the high-end AMD card, so it is high-end pretty much by definition.

But it doesn't. The GTX680 is on average a mere 35% faster then the GTX580. That is not highend. The 7970 GHz is also barely highend. More so than the 680, sure, but it beats the 580 by only 50% on average. Heck, the 480 was 60-65% faster than the GTX285, the formerly fastest card. 28nm has been very disappointing on both sides.
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Originally Posted by Forceman View Post

If it performs high-end, then it is high-end. It competes with the high-end AMD card, so it is high-end pretty much by definition.

But it doesn't. The GTX680 is on average a mere 35% faster then the GTX580. That is not highend. The 7970 GHz is also barely highend. More so than the 680, sure, but it beats the 580 by only 50% on average. Heck, the 480 was 60-65% faster than the GTX285, the formerly fastest card. 28nm has been very disappointing on both sides.

That's what happens when you have two generations of graphics cards on the same process; the next shrink isn't as impressive as the last few. Blame TSMC cancelling 32nm.
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But it doesn't. The GTX680 is on average a mere 35% faster then the GTX580. That is not highend. The 7970 GHz is also barely highend. More so than the 680, sure, but it beats the 580 by only 50% on average. Heck, the 480 was 60-65% faster than the GTX285, the formerly fastest card. 28nm has been very disappointing on both sides.

680 is only about 20% faster than a 580, not 35, or at least it was at launch. And again, it is the highest card available, and competes with the competitors highest end card, so how can it "barely" be high-end? Because it doesn't meet some arbitrary performance increase?
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680 is only about 20% faster than a 580, not 35, or at least it was at launch. And again, it is the highest card available, and competes with the competitors highest end card, so how can it "barely" be high-end? Because it doesn't meet some arbitrary performance increase?

35% at 1600p across 19 games with farely latest drivers:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Club_3D/HD_7870_jokerCard_Tahiti_LE/28.html
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Originally Posted by Usario View Post

That's what happens when you have two generations of graphics cards on the same process; the next shrink isn't as impressive as the last few. Blame TSMC cancelling 32nm.

The problem was/is that AMD overcharged massively for the 7970 at launch and Nvidia followed suit. They got away with it and now it's rinse and repeat. From a performance point of view 28nm is great. Pricing is terrible, even now it is not completely where it should be.
Edited by boxleitnerb - 1/21/13 at 10:52pm
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I have a ? From the standard card is this supose to be the new 690 because the 690 has better specs..Im a bit lost
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FTFY.

As someone who goes back and forth from nVidia and AMD fairly often, their drivers are pretty equal...You rarely get show-stopping bugs, but still get a few here and there (eg. nVidia drivers crashing, AMDs stuttering and MMU issues) unless you're talking Linux, even then though AMD drivers are often said to be bad when in reality, they're just acceptable with an annoying level of support to deal with too. (eg. My laptop being limited to Catalyst 12.6 and thus xorg 11.1)

 

I wasn't talking about drivers in gaming and stability in general. I never really noticed a difference between the two in gaming really, both crash from time to time. I was commenting on the tools and support for GPGPU, which Mad Pistol misunderstood from BizarreRide.

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