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If only Dell, Asus, etc., released 1440P+ monitors that were capable of legit 120hz refresh rates.

So much GPU power and no proper monitors to play them on...what a waste.

If TN panels didn't have awful color accuracy, terrible viewing angles, only 6 bit color, and overall poor quality, i'd go back to them. After using 2560x1600 extensively, I can't see myself going back to the awful color dithering and bad quality of TN panels. That said, 120hz is really nice, but I think the higher resolution is better. Subjective , I guess.

You are right though, I don't quite understand why 1440p 120hz panels haven't been released. This needs to happen.
Edited by xoleras - 1/22/13 at 4:46am
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I'm surprised no one has pointed out the timing between the GK110 and Crysis 3.
We know that Nv and Crytek have a great relationship went it comes to pushing performance.

We've seen the GTX 680 is not enough for Crysis 3, and the GTX 700s are still months away.
What will give Nv customer's the best experience without dropping $1K on a video card?

GK110.

The GTX 680 was rumored around $550-600.
When it hit Newegg, it was $500. I see the same here, GK110 will be between $650-750.
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I feel just like with the 7970 we aren't really making progress with higher performance at same price points with this release.
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I reckon this will be NVidia's own "Asus Mars" type card, and there will be a normal GTX780 that's around 20% more powerful than the GTX680 for about the same launch price.
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An appropriate name for a monstrous card.... The Kraken stirs.
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What will Quad SLI Titans do?
Challenge accepted.thumb.gif
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A GTX 280 does not perform high-end now, therefore by the logic of "If it performs high-end, then it is high-end" (Copy and paste) it's not high end.

Again, why would you compare outside generations? It's nonsensical, and it doesn't make the point you seem to think it makes.

Do you think the GTX 280 is a high-end part today? I mean, I don't even understand your argument. The GTX 280 was the high-end performer of its generation - so it was a high-end card at that time. Now, four years later, it is no longer a high-end part. The GTX 680 is the top performer of the current generation, so it is a high-end part now. Is that really so confusing?

The GK104 GPU is a mid-range GPU. It's clocked high to make up for that, practically every mid-range GPU (bar the crappy ones) has been able to do that. Is the HD7870 high-end because it can overclock to 1200Mhz and match a HD7970 in FPS? nVidia have done that, they've taken what was originally the GTX 660Ti and then factory overclocked it to compete with the HD7970 instead of releasing a lower clocked GK100 which would be high-end by all definitions.
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We're not coming close to saturating 3GB? Skyrim + Steam Workshop would like a word with you, as would the lowering prices of 4K TVs.

How much mileage are people going to try to get out of "modded Skyrim"? It was the reason why 2GB was not enough, now it's the reason 3GB isn't enough? When 12GB cards come out is it still going to be the reason 6GB isn't enough?

As for 4k TV pricing, if a single GTX 680 can be GPU limited at 1080p, why would you believe a single next-gen card could push 4 times as many pixels with anything approaching playable frame rates? The amount of VRAM required is irrelevant when your GPU can only push 10 FPS.

Edit: So it appears this is going to be some kind of limited edition card, not an actual product line as I thought initially. Makes a little more sense now.

At 1080p, you need 3GB for modded Skyrim (IMO, anyway) and there are only more mods coming out, once you start hitting higher resolutions like 1440p, 4K and start talking about 120Hz displays then the need for 6GB in ultra high-end cards shows.
It's not useless and irrelevant when you take into account SLI and CFX, if I was a rich bastard and ran a 1440p screen (Especially a 120Hz one, 3D or 2D) then two cards with6GB would be much faster than two with 3GB, even with one card it's still going to be a large difference between an ultra slow mess and a only slightly slow mess when you're talking large resolutions with lots of AA.
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I can get within ~20% of the absolute most highest end graphics cards available (ie. GTX 690) with an overclock on a card I just paid $309 for..If that's not good value, I don't know what is. AMD cards were over-priced, but paying ~$400-$500 for a flagship GPU has been normal for years now.

I was talking about last gen cards, not the 690. You can OC the 580 as well. Aside from that, it's always a flawed argument that compares OC to non-OC.
$400-500 for a flagship card are normal, that is correct. But then it has to perform accordingly. And that is where ALL 28nm cards have failed miserably up to now. I expect 60-70% more performance from a new generation over the last fastest solution. That hasn't happened yet. From that point of view, all 28nm cards are still overpriced compared to the last generation.

The GTX 285 is only around 30% slower than the GTX 480, same story with..well, virtually every major GPU refresh apart from large jumps such as the one from DX9 to DX10.

I had written up a post comparing my overclocked GTX 470 (Roughly equal to a GTX 570 at stock, I did have proof too, in that an 830Mhz GTX 470 is about as fast as a stock GTX 570, as proven by a member on here) to my HD7950..The difference is only around ~30-40% but that's actually quite a big difference for PC parts; for reference, PIledriver was ~10% average over Bulldozer which sent it from competing with the i7 2600k in 2-3 applications to beating the i7 3770k in those applications and even beating the i5 in a few programs that aren't particularly well multi-threaded, something the previous Bulldozer couldn't really do, despite only being 5% slower average for single-threaded stuff.
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If only Dell, Asus, etc., released 1440P+ monitors that were capable of legit 120hz refresh rates.

So much GPU power and no proper monitors to play them on...what a waste.

If TN panels didn't have awful color accuracy, terrible viewing angles, only 6 bit color, and overall poor quality, i'd go back to them. After using 2560x1600 extensively, I can't see myself going back to the awful color dithering and bad quality of TN panels. That said, 120hz is really nice, but I think the higher resolution is better. Subjective , I guess.

You are right though, I don't quite understand why 1440p 120hz panels haven't been released. This needs to happen.

The annoying thing is some of those panels can hit 120Hz when we can change the options, etc, so they probably could release a 1440p IPS 120Hz monitor...But no-one has.
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I run the 2k texture mod, plus more, on 2GB comfortably.
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An appropriate name for a monstrous card.... The Kraken stirs.

when you think Nvidia card and Monster size creatures how could you not think about:



I think this card will carry 6 GB of Vram and 4 MDP/MinHDMI or fullsize versions if it is 3 slot(along with 2 Dual link DVI) to be the Uber Flagship Limitied Edition Surround Ready card, probably named the Geforce Titan GTX 785.

And for the <$600 price point we get GTX 780 with either GK110 with 10 SMX(instead of 14), 320/384 bit 3GB Vram or just a 10SMX GK114 chip with the bandwidth and Vram.
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If it helps you guys feel better I'm always ashamed about having a 1440p 120hz display yet only having a single 7970. tongue.gif


Poor monitor is wasting away it's potential on my desk. /ashamed redface.gif



OT: Sounds great, I usually skip a gen at least so this doesn't concern me but if they're really ahead of the game, as much as some claim, next gen NV should have really big guns ready for my eventual upgrade!!! And while I agree the 6GB seems a bit large I'm sure there will me a different sku/model that will have only 3GB for hopefully a bit less.
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