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I hate to disappoint you, My benchmark scores will be higher than yours. 850 core is 24/7. 900 core is benching clocks. At neither clock does your 670 have more power than my SLI. Sorry. Even with your card Overclocked, you still will won't be able to beat overclocked 470s. I know because my best friend that lives 2 doors down has a nearly identical setup to mine except he runs a 4GB EVGA 670 and we bench against each other alot. Guess who setup scores higher?


PS

Mine does

That's fair enough, but one card is almost as powerful, uses less juice and runs cooler biggrin.gif
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Rubers likes to claim his card is better than other's but when asked to prove it he tends to run for the tall grass...

No, that's just when I flat out ignore you for trolling wink.gif
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Seems like the guy constantly bragging about how much better his hardware is than others is actually the one trolling. But I digress, SLI 470's are definitely more than a match for a single 670 but the 670 is a far better solution in terms of heat and power consumption...

No and nope lachen.gif

GTX670 > HD7950. The HD7950 is in line with the GTX660Ti, though the GTX670 and HD7950 do trade blows, it the GTX670 is a clear winner... now in terms of price, that's a different story all together.

Trolling is posting pathetic PMs to me and having a completely different version of reality floating around.
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and this is assuming your competitors brownie can't get any better.
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So, your statement would make sense if Nvidia was a hands down winner in the single gpu "war" but it isn't.

Well, winning or losing really wasn't my point. Of course it goes without saying that the other guy often finds a way to make a better mix and reinforces that fact that through constant competition the best business decision (from both sides) is to retain your overhead until it's needed.
Another way of looking at it is from a squirrels POV but I'll leave that until next time wink.gif
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No and nope lachen.gif

GTX670 > HD7950. The HD7950 is in line with the GTX660Ti, though the GTX670 and HD7950 do trade blows, it the GTX670 is a clear winner... now in terms of price, that's a different story all together.

Trolling is posting pathetic PMs to me and having a completely different version of reality floating around.

I don't see where the 7950 came into play.

But The HD7950 can be overclocked to compete with the GTX680 if need be. I could care less about this frame time if thats what your gonna post to counter what im saying, but in Raw FPS power the 7950 and 7970 are more capable cards when you start overclocking them.

FPS wise the 7870 and GTX660ti are about dead even with the 660ti maybe having 1-2fps more. Though the 7870 tends to have pretty good mins as well.

AMD cards are also getting better with every driver as well. Once the 13.x drives fix the memory system and other GCN tweaks, Those 670/80 will be nothing more then #2. Lets face it AMD made a better card this time around, last time this happened it was the x1950. AMD deserves one every now and then, GCN is better then kepler in my eyes anyway.
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Seems like the guy constantly bragging about how much better his hardware is than others is actually the one trolling. But I digress, SLI 470's are definitely more than a match for a single 670 but the 670 is a far better solution in terms of heat and power consumption...

Which means it's a far better card.
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Can we please get back on topic guys?
 
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It's simple. No voltage control, no buy.
This is silly. Why would you even need it, when the card can be pushed to about 200mhz faster on stock voltage, probably under gpu boost clocks? So you can get another 1-2 fps out of anything or an extra 100 points in 3D mark? Stupid comment.

I also don't see why we are comparing an SLI set up, to a single 670. Anyone who has any sense knows that a 470 overclocked sli setup will out gun a single 670. Add another 670 then, and it all changes. Then of course there are the power, noise, and heat issues associated with 470 cards, but nobody cares about that I'm sure, lol.

Back to the original issue tho, I doubt soon we will even need unlocked voltage. GPU boost and the power targets you can set in EVGA precision take care of the issue for the MAJORITY of people who will purchase these cards. Who can blame Nvidia for not wanting to have to RMA burned up cards because people don't know what they are doing, or got carried away with voltage increases. They should have to pay for that...?

Silly internet people rolleyes.gif


BTW I love how Nvidia makes my statement in the sig true.
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I don't see where the 7950 came into play.

But The HD7950 can be overclocked to compete with the GTX680 if need be. I could care less about this frame time if thats what your gonna post to counter what im saying, but in Raw FPS power the 7950 and 7970 are more capable cards when you start overclocking them.

FPS wise the 7870 and GTX660ti are about dead even with the 660ti maybe having 1-2fps more. Though the 7870 tends to have pretty good mins as well.

You can safely ignore that bit... it's a long story that doesn't even deserve going into tongue.gif

But it does depend on which game you play: http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-geforce-gtx-660-ti-revisited as to which is better (yes,. ignoring the frametime stuff and looking at the FPS). Or the updated: http://techreport.com/review/24218/a-driver-update-to-reduce-radeon-frame-times/3

And the average gamer doesn't overclock their card like you guys do. Looking at benchmarks like those, it appears the HD7950 is in line with the GTX660Ti, imho. Overclocking your card to golden sample levels that reviewers get isn't always feasible too.
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Can we please get back on topic guys?

You wrote this while I was posting biggrin.gif It's kind of on topic!
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That's awesome, but my single card stomps your SLI cards, voltage control or not. It's you that misses out.

Good grief man. Can you just stop it with the childish stuff?

It's a valid complaint for a card that costs 900$. Intel allows overvoltage on their 200$ SKUs. But nvidia may have issue with it on a 900$ part, although that isn't confirmed yet. If you haven't noticed - most of us around this board like to tweak with our hardware smile.gif

Again. 900$. If you're paying that much for an enthusiasts part, reasonable software voltage isn't outrageous. Still, I might be okay with it if the card performs like a 900$ card, we'll see.
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Good grief man. Can you just stop it with the childish stuff?

It's a valid complaint for a card that costs 900$. Intel allows overvoltage on their 200$ SKUs. But nvidia may have issue with it on a 900$ part, although that isn't confirmed yet. If you haven't noticed - most of us around this board like to tweak with our hardware smile.gif

It's still not the massive deal everyone makes it out to be, since, as Alatar has pointed out many times, you can still volt mod your card if you want to. The only difference is you can't claim a warranty on a borked or broken card in that event.

And I wasn't being childish. It's him that misses out really, if it's a spectacular card but he won't buy it because it lacks one feature which is still quite new.

EDIT:

And Intel have many limits in their CPU's and have but a lot of R&D into designing them in a rather indestructible way... and even their latest CPU's are very sensitive to voltage.

EDIT 2:

And that's a nice 200|1000mhz overclock on your GTX680 wink.gif
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