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Originally Posted by 2010rig View Post

GK104 was pushed to its near absolute limits to deliver high end performance, that didn't overtake the 7970, but it was "Good Enough" to compete, and turned out to be a much more profitable strategy.

Which is very impressive.

I know a lot of 7870 / 7850s can be clocked to compete with stock 7970 / 7950s respectively, but not every card. For nVidia to get all their cards out the door with that level of, essentially, a factory overclock is incredible.

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NVIDIA sold a part they normally sell for $300 for $500.

And the ignorant consumer will know no difference. Please note I am not talking about anyone on this forum, I am talking about the high street shopper getting the latest and greatest pre built.

Really it was a stroke of genius from nVidia, they certainly made the best out of a potentially bad situation.
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Originally Posted by rocstar96 View Post

Even Nvidia users did not believe that the 670/680 were meant to be mid range cards.

Love how people still believe this stuff..

The wondeful stuff is seeing nvidia that were forced to do this... 680 is the high end stuff people wanted to believe it or not...
Good luck with thier $900 cards as like the 690 which many many many many people bought.. right XD? -zippyfear-
Edited by zGunBLADEz - 1/23/13 at 8:45am
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Originally Posted by 2010rig View Post

Fact.

GK104 = Mid-Range Chip.
GK110 = High End Chip.

For whatever reasons that NVIDIA didn't release a 680 based on GK110, doesn't negate the fact that the GK104 is a mid-range part in NVIDIA's line up. Is that really so hard to accept?

I doubt NVIDIA wanted a Fermi 2.0 on their hands, why rush GK110, when GK104 was good enough?

GK104 was pushed to its near absolute limits to deliver high end performance, that didn't overtake the 7970, but it was "Good Enough" to compete, and turned out to be a much more profitable strategy. NVIDIA sold a part they normally sell for $300 for $500.

GK110 is already being sold as Tesla's for $3000+, and now soon as Titan. Not that long ago, "some people" were claiming that GK110 was a myth, it didn't exist, and GK104 was all NVIDIA had in their arsenal.

All I've been saying this whole time is that it's damn obvious that based on the 680 specs ( GK104, 256 bit bus, crippled compute, etc ) that this was NOT NVIDIA's high end chip. YES, it was sold as "high end" for "high end prices" thanks to its performance, that doesn't make it NVIDIA's high end CHIP.

I knew that GK110 would one day come out with its 384 bit bus, a BIG ~550 mm2 Die, and be a compute beast in pure NVIDIA high end tradition.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6446/nvidia-launches-tesla-k20-k20x-gk110-arrives-at-last

GK104 was Nvidia's high end Geforce chip for 2012. For 2013 the high end chip is GK110. simple as that. nothing else matters. Nvidia did not and could not release a GK100. the GK110 taped out in Jan 2012 and as is the usual case with semiconductor chips took 9 - 10 months from tapeout to volume production.

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/02/07/gk110-tapes-out-at-last/

It was launched in late Oct - mid Nov for the Tesla market because thats where Nvidia has its highest margins. now after 4 months in late Feb they are going to release the Geforce version. When AMD releases HD 8970 we can make a comparison of perf, perf/watt and perf/sq mm between these 2 products.
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There is no point on dual gpus.. There is no games that need for single monitors...

But still they make them... XD

how about 4k monitors with Extreme settings?? they're coming.
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how about 4k monitors with Extreme settings?? they're coming.

Yeah there is a lot of people in line waiting to buy those for 15k or up...
im included..


yeah sure lol...
post #526 of 833
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I'm glad you took the new 1440p monitors for a spin, the new asus and dell 2713hm models are great. I got the Dell, my only complaint is a little backlight bleeding, but how beautiful games look makes up for it. The colors are great too with IPS panels or PLS in the asus. 120 Hz would be nice though and 4K. We need some new gfx cards to drive those resolutions, my 680 falls a little short in the most demanding titles @ 1440p...

I believe its more of the issue with cable(dvi-d) bandwidth. It either maxes out with 120hz or 2560 resolutions in 60hz. It can't do both. Until display port goes more mainstream this will continue to hold companies back from combining the two. I seriously don't think it would matter either way because gpu's just aren't up to the task to pull off 2560 and keep things above 120fps. In Far Cry 3 for instance if I go past 2x anti-a to like 4x its brings my 690 to its knees in ultra settings and settles the fps to around 40. Of course you could turn the settings down to achieve higher fps with 2560 resolution but then you would lose all that eye candy. I honestly didn't drop 1k on a gpu to have to turn the settings down in a game. I'm not sure even 2x 690's could pull off 120fps in 2560 with everything maxed in Far Cry 3. Thus proving again gpu's are not quite where they need to be for 2560 120hz. My guess is that something big is in store this year with gpu's to be able to play these upcoming games at full max settings.
 
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post #527 of 833
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Yeah there is a lot of people in line waiting to buy those for 15k or up...
im included..


yeah sure lol...

this one http://www.pcworld.com/article/2017340/sharp-to-launch-worlds-thinnest-4k-monitor-for-about-5-500.html starts at 5500 and is 32 inches and is supposed to be out February...
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this one http://www.pcworld.com/article/2017340/sharp-to-launch-worlds-thinnest-4k-monitor-for-about-5-500.html starts at 5500 and is 32 inches and is supposed to be out February...

32ich? at that size ?? 4k AT 32INCH for $5,500

Yeah sure ill be there lol

Really people what we are smoking around here???

I dont use monitors/hdtvs that small anymore thank you very much 55 as a minimum...

Im not follower of the 120hz bullcrap also... Btw.


I do believe in Higher res tho...

Waitiig for the novelty of the 4k hdtvs to hit the prices of the current hdtvs..

Thats all.
Edited by zGunBLADEz - 1/23/13 at 9:09am
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32ich? at that size ?? 4k AT 32INCH for $5,500

Yeah sure ill be there lol

Really people what we are smoking around here???

as with any tech, the price goes down the longer its out....thats why you can buy a plasma tv at walmart for 400 dollars when they used to be upwards of 25000
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as with any tech, the price goes down the longer its out....thats why you can buy a plasma tv at walmart for 400 dollars when they used to be upwards of 25000

There still are plasma's that much. Its in the higher-end market. My 65" Panasonic I just picked up for my HT was 4k. Sad thing is its in the lower spectrum of what Panasonic makes although I think its picture is outstanding. When it comes to Home audio and video there is an entire other world out there of products that the average consumer never see's. Its only for the super rich. Go check out this website. Its a craigslist for rich people into home audio. We are fortunate to be able to get top of the line PC hardware for such a reasonable price. Home audio is a whole other ballgame.


http://app.audiogon.com/listings/full-range-acapella-trilon-excaliber-mk-ii-new-in-crate-2013-01-19-speakers-94061
 
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