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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Do you guys think Nvidia will release some variation of GK110 without the board restrictions? Wondering how MSI is going to handle the Lightning cards this next gen?

not a chance, nvidia's project green light won't allow it.
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Do you guys think Nvidia will release some variation of GK110 without the board restrictions? Wondering how MSI is going to handle the Lightning cards this next gen?

Seems unlikely. It looks like they really don't want anyone to mess with their own design for this chip.

Edit: though now that I think about it, maybe they'd allow their partners to make custom PCBs for a slightly cut down version of the chip. I imagine ASUS, EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI etc will not take kindly to not being allowed to make any custom GK110 based cards.
Edited by Vonnis - 1/23/13 at 12:09pm
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The news of the Titan card has me a little concerned on what is in store for the 790. I've pretty much decided to stick with a dual-gpu the next few generations. Less power, less heat and easier to sell then 2 seperate gpu's. Will the 790 be (2) gk110's and if it is imagine the price of that beast. Or will it be modded gk104's. I just hope it allows me to run upcoming titles at full max. It really chaps my arse that I can't hold 60fps in 2560x1440 when adjusting msaa to 4x or higher on my 690. I need more power...........mad.gif
 
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Yes it is.

Ivy Bridge-E needs to show up first wink.gif



Though this looks as though ti will
Edited by Rubers - 1/23/13 at 12:26pm
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Do you guys think Nvidia will release some variation of GK110 without the board restrictions? Wondering how MSI is going to handle the Lightning cards this next gen?

When the real GK110 card comes out I'm sure they will. This $900 Titan thing is pretty clearly a limited-edition card (like the GTX 690) and not the true GTX 680 successor.
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not a chance, nvidia's project green light won't allow it.

Why not, Green Light exists now but you can still buy Lightning cards.
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The news of the Titan card has me a little concerned on what is in store for the 790. I've pretty much decided to stick with a dual-gpu the next few generations. Less power, less heat and easier to sell then 2 seperate gpu's. Will the 790 be (2) gk110's and if it is imagine the price of that beast. Or will it be modded gk104's. I just hope it allows me to run upcoming titles at full max. It really chaps my arse that I can't hold 60fps in 2560x1440 when adjusting msaa to 4x or higher on my 690. I need more power...........mad.gif

If we're going to see a dual GK110 card, I'd assume the chips would have to be neutered in some way (either disabling SMX or downclock a lot) to keep power draw reasonable. And if such a card were made and released, it would make the prices on cards like the Mars II or various 7990s look like a bargain.
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Originally Posted by Vonnis View Post

Seems unlikely. It looks like they really don't want anyone to mess with their own design for this chip.

Edit: though now that I think about it, maybe they'd allow their partners to make custom PCBs for a slightly cut down version of the chip. I imagine ASUS, EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI etc will not take kindly to not being allowed to make any custom GK110 based cards.

EVGA took alot of crap for releasing a classified 680 without the EVBOT because of Nvidia's stupid rules, but they still make them.
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When the real GK110 card comes out I'm sure they will. This $900 Titan thing is pretty clearly a limited-edition card (like the GTX 690) and not the true GTX 680 successor.
Why not, Green Light exists now but you can still buy Lightning cards.
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Overclockers.com was the first to cover the story, and Bright Side of News has done some further digging. Turns out voltage control limits are part of Nvidia's Green Light program, a certification process designed to ensure cards meet certain requirements. According to Nvidia Senior PR Manager Bryan Del Rizzo, overvolting is supported "up to a limit," in order to "protect the life of the product." Del Rizzo claims Nvidia won't stop graphics card makers who want to overvolt their products wildly or want to provide users that freedom via voltage controls. However, doing so disqualifies products from receiving warranty support from Nvidia. Add-in board makers are free to provide their own warranty coverage, of course.

EVGA isn't the only graphics card maker to run afoul of the Green Light program's rules. MSI's GeForce GTX 680 Lightning Edition card reportedly offered users too much leeway to tweak voltages and had to be scaled back to comply. Del Rizzo notes that MSI chose warranty coverage over extreme overvolting support, just as EVGA appears to have done with its Classified card. He also says those choices have no bearing on how many graphics chips are allocated to the card makers.

Sauce

the maker of the card take a loss if you break your card.

then hopefully 780 will have overvolting.
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EVGA took alot of crap for releasing a classified 680 without the EVBOT because of Nvidia's stupid rules, but they still make them.
And they probably wish they didn't. I don't have numbers but I doubt they're selling a lot of them, given the price for a card that has a lot of bells and whistles that can't be used.
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EVGA took alot of crap for releasing a classified 680 without the EVBOT because of Nvidia's stupid rules, but they still make them.

I like the fact that the card I pay top dollar for is basically pushed to its max. Don't have to second guess whether I'm getting the max performance the card is capable of. This may not work for those with budget in mind trying to push the mid-level card to higher tier levels but for the average consumer who want's to plug and play this is great. For me reliability and stability are two major factors in anything I buy. Those two are lost when overclocking most gpu's. All for an extra 5-10fps.
 
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