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I am definitely buying this. drool.gif
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I also think nvidia lost this round, but they've been winning long enough that you had to look at results this time to not automatically go nvidia (like I usually do). The new drivers also made a considerable difference after many had already gotten the 600s.
As for mid range/high end, IMO if they were to name the new card a gtx685 or something then the 680 wouldn't be the high end of the 600 series. New name/series gpu is kinda considered a new series with new high end & mid range cards, if it's only a rebrand/refinement of the same architecture it seems like a bit of a cheat, but it is what it is.
gtx 480 was the high end of the 400 series, gtx 580 was the high end of 500 series , but also the high end of fermi overall. Depends on a persons viewpoint.
    
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did you not care to read the "Why?" portion of his post?
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Hmm, seems like he put a perfectly clear disclaimer at the end of the post and it was a prediction made almost a full year ago. That was around the time you were hyperventilating about a GK110 chip coming in 2012 if I remember correctly. Regardless, Nvidia had nothing better than GK104 to offer in 2012 so that was their high end chip. Now they apparently have GK110 ready so it will be the high end of 2013. Simple to understand...
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I also think nvidia lost this round, but they've been winning long enough that you had to look at results this time to not automatically go nvidia (like I usually do). The new drivers also made a considerable difference after many had already gotten the 600s.
As for mid range/high end, IMO if they were to name the new card a gtx685 or something then the 680 wouldn't be the high end of the 600 series. New name/series gpu is kinda considered a new series with new high end & mid range cards, if it's only a rebrand/refinement of the same architecture it seems like a bit of a cheat, but it is what it is.
gtx 480 was the high end of the 400 series, gtx 580 was the high end of 500 series , but also the high end of fermi overall. Depends on a persons viewpoint.

I do have a feeling this card will be a x85 card, since current rumors point to the 780 being based on GK114.

Overall, people mistaken what I say. I'm only pointing out that it's a mid-range CHIP, and that's why I refused to buy it, hence I voted with my wallet.

When the 460 first came out, I bought it on day of release for $250. I later upgraded to a 470, back then it was a true upgrade, and made a difference in video editing. Between the 660 - 680, they are all based on the same chip, and you're simply side-grading, while their compute is really crippled...

I totally get that the 670, 680 delivered the gaming performance necessary to compete, shows how great the architecture really is. I've been looking for something to replace my 470, but neither camp have enticed me.

Finally, we have GK110, Kepler's true high end, and this chip I will gladly pay $700 for, a few months after its release.

A GK110 Quadro is $2200+, and Tesla's are $3K+. Even at $900 it can be seen as a bargain, but I'm not willing to pay that high right off the bat.

If AMD had CUDA like support for OpenCL, and was as widely adopted, or at least optimized and supported in Premiere, I would've grabbed a 7970 a long time ago.

I've played Far Cry 3, Hitman Absolution just fine on my 47" 1080p, so even in gaming, I've had little reason to upgrade.
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Adobe Premiere doesn't support the 7970's?
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Adobe Premiere doesn't support the 7970's?

Nope.

http://www.adobe.com/ca/products/premiere/tech-specs.html
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Whoa. Whoa. Let's back up here wink.gif

Premiere and photoshop work just fine on both the 680 and 7970, however -- there are certain GPU features that neither board can take advantage of because premiere and photoshop bypass the windows API. That necessitates special drivers programmed and tailored for what adobe uses. Generally speaking, no consumer level GPU has these functions - you need a workstation card.

For full functionality within those programs you need a firepro or quadro. In fact, you cannot use 10 bit color in premiere or photoshop with either nvidia or AMD unless you are - again - using a firepro or quadro. That's what those boards are designed for, they are bundled with special drivers that unlock the full functionality within adobe applications such as premiere and photoshop. That isn't the case with either the 680 or 7970. You'll notice 680 isn't on their list -- But , the K20 and K20X have special drivers to unlock full functionality and 10 bit color for adobe programs. So do the firepros. It is a driver level function, and while adobe does include some of that in the program, you have to get the premium workstation cards to get full GPU acceleration in photoshop and premiere. Along with 10bit color as well since Adobe bypasses with windows API and does it's own thing.
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Whoa. Whoa. Let's back up here wink.gif

Premiere and photoshop work just fine on both the 680 and 7970, however -- there are certain GPU features that neither board can take advantage of because premiere and photoshop bypass the windows API. That necessitates special drivers programmed and tailored for what adobe uses. Generally speaking, no consumer level GPU has these functions - you need a workstation card.

For full functionality within those programs you need a firepro or quadro. In fact, you cannot use 10 bit color in premiere or photoshop with either nvidia or AMD unless you are - again - using a firepro or quadro. That's what those boards are designed for, they are bundled with special drivers that unlock the full functionality within adobe applications such as premiere and photoshop. That isn't the case with either the 680 or 7970. You'll notice 680 isn't on their list -- But , the K20 and K20X have special drivers to unlock full functionality and 10 bit color for adobe programs. So do the firepros. It is a driver level function, and while adobe does include some of that in the program, you have to get the premium workstation cards to get full GPU acceleration in photoshop and premiere. Along with 10bit color as well since Adobe bypasses with windows API and does it's own thing.

Why are there a few GeForce cards on there, then?
    
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If this can support 3x Dual-link DVI output for 3x 2560x1440 displays, I'm in for one biggrin.gif
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