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Not true.

ES Samples usually have lower clocks, no?
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ES Samples usually have lower clocks, no?

Cough....I had my phase unit with me........cough tongue.gif
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^ that, and
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ES Samples usually have lower clocks, no?

Who cares about the default clocks for ES samples, especially since we already pretty much know what clockspeeds haswell CPUs will run at tongue.gif
 
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biggrin.gif

So, should I buy Haswell? Do you think the board upgrade combo would be worth it? (should be a question outside the scope of that NDA wink.gif )
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^ that, and
Who cares about the default clocks for ES samples, especially since we already pretty much know what clockspeeds haswell CPUs will run at tongue.gif

I was just saying it'd be hard to tell if you ran just an ES sample against a fully clocked retail chip... but if you can get them at similar clocks.. that aren't around 1.6GHz.. well.. biggrin.gif
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GK110 wheee.gifwheee.gifwheee.gifwheee.gif

funny seeing you here!!! If this thing launches how many are you getting? I am not sure if I want 2 or 3 probably not 4 as it is more hassle than 2 or 3 smile.gif

One to begin with...SLI after I pay that one off smile.gif
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I'm sorry but a simple refresh to an existing line and not a true 780 nomenclature..... NOT paying $900 for it.

There must be a bottom to top release of cards.
 
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Being 85% of the 690 performance wise. Buying a second 690 would seem to make sense for me but quad sli scales horribly in games which is all I use my machine for. Two of these Titans in Sli might be the best option out there for gaming.
 
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You're skimming the surface, and perhaps you didn't read the article that you linked (CPU tests?) thoroughly. Some functions are covered, but not all; you'll also notice the GTX 680 isn't among those listed. Among those listed, not all features are supported, and 10 bit color output is not supported. Again for that you will need firepro or quadro.

The only way to get full 100% acceleration and 10 bit color in the adobe suite is with a firepro or quadro card; the only way to get full 10 bit color output is with a firepro or quadro card. Things have been this way for a while - The photo editors that I work with have attempted to get 10 bit output with geforce cards and it doesn't work. It's a driver level issue - and the adobe suite bypasses the windows API so while Geforce cards offer 10 bit out via D3D, they do not offer 10 bit output in the adobe suite. Now, the suite comes with limited acceleration on some functions but for full acceleration and 10 bit output you need the drivers and software associated with workstation cards. Both the firepro and quadro lines have software and drivers specifically tailored to the adobe suite that allow 10 bit output and full acceleration of the adobe suite (since adobe bypasses windows API)

I know you're trying to make a compelling argument here, but you are in the wrong. The only possible way to get 10 bit output is with firepro or quadro, the only way to get full acceleration is firepro or quadro. Even with that said, you'll notice that the GTX 680 and K20/K20X aren't in the supported accelerators list. Guess what? the K20 works - you just need the software that comes with the K20. It will not work on the 680.

This is part of what you pay for with workstation cards. The software and drivers - these are exclusive to workstation cards and will not work on consumer level cards, period.

Honestly, a lot of this is nonsense because its offtopic. We're talking about gaming cards here. I'm sure there was a compelling argument somewhere but when we're talking gaming cards, I feel this is a tangent.

Uhm, nice I guess, but FirePro also aren't supported (correct me if I'm wrong, I do follow the adobe forums though) and no, my GTX 470 has 10 bit vector colors although my display doesn't support it. I think U2410 do.

Running your expensive FirePro card in Premiere is the same as running it on an iGPU.
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Uhm, nice I guess, but FirePro also aren't supported (correct me if I'm wrong, I do follow the adobe forums though) and no, my GTX 470 has 10 bit vector colors although my display doesn't support it. I think U2410 do.

Running your expensive FirePro card in Premiere is the same as running it on an iGPU.

This is belaboring the point because this is really not relevant to gaming cards. However, the CUDA functions you see are limited - for full acceleration in the adobe suite you need a workstation card. None of the consumer cards can output 10 bit color in the adobe suite - they only allow 10 bit output via direct3D and windows API but not adobe suite (again, adobe bypasses the windows API.). Only workstation cards can output 10 bit color in the adobe suite using displayport. (AGAIN - consumer cards can only output @ 10 in direct3D.)

Now you are correct - consumer level geforce cards are better than competing consumer ATI cards in some cases. But you really don't get full benefits for the adobe suite with either consumer card - professional video/photo editors will be using 10-bit color output and the additional functions supported by workstation cards.

Both the firepro and quadro lines have drivers specifically written for full functionality and full 10 bit color output. See here per the nvidia website:

http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3011/~/10-bit-per-color-support-on-nvidia-geforce-gpus
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NVIDIA Geforce graphics cards have offered 10-bit per color out to a full screen Direct X surface since the Geforce 200 series GPUs. Due to the way most applications use traditional Windows API functions to create the application UI and viewport display, this method is not used for professional applications such as Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe Photoshop. These programs use OpenGL 10-bit per color buffers which require an NVIDIA Quadro GPU with DisplayPort connector. A small number of monitors support 10-bit per color with Quadro graphics cards over DVI. For more information on NVIDIA professional line of Quadro GPUs, please visit:

http://www.nvidia.com/page/workstation.html

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I'm sorry but a simple refresh to an existing line and not a true 780 nomenclature..... NOT paying $900 for it.

There must be a bottom to top release of cards.

It's not a refresh.
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