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It is comforting to see others with the same worries I have and esp. Vega who had 4 classifieds at 1400 as I do.

2 titans or 3 might be better than our setups in games like bf3 due to sli scaling. But even then at 1400 or higher and say 7500mhz ram 3 of my classifieds would not be that much slower than 3 titans depending how well the titans oc.

Side question Vega what speed can you run on the vram?

Another concern for me is whether this is first gen kepler 600 series or second gen 700 series. I mean the 680 was nearly 85% of a 590 (forgot exact numbers) and cost was $550 at launch, if this is considered 600 series then yes it slots in well if around $800 but being gk110 it seems more akin to the gk114 second gen kepler than the gk104 we have now and if it is 700 series which being released so close to the time a 700 should be released it should be in the $500-600 range.

Any thoughts on that last concern? I mean generation to generation you get %30-%80 more power at similar price points the price of performance is not additive gen to gen right?

I run my Classifieds RAM at 3703/7406. The core's can run 1400 MHz but I bump them down to 1380 to guarantee 24/7 gaming rock solid. I am sure I will end up with Titan's, I just hope the bottom doesn't fall out of the 680 Classifieds (with EVBOT) when I go to sell them lol. But only getting a-half return of what a Titan costs could be pretty disheartening when I fully expect performance not to be much more than 30% increase over 1400 MHz 680's.

I just think Titan will scale better at 4K resolution. How is that 4-way treating you with those three 120 Hz in surround? I kinda got away from Eyefinity/Surround and all the issues, now looking forward to single monitor 4K. I've never really had any issues with SLI/Crossfire when it came to single monitor. Usually all the problems start when you mix 2-4 GPU's and 3-5 monitors in some way.

Although the thought of running games on a 4K screen completely maxed out and never dipping blow 60 FPS sounds pretty sweet. Has me thinking about a build later this year:

Titan/GK110 water cooled 4-Way GPU setup: $4200
Sharp IGZO 32" 4K: $5500
IB-E CPU: $1100
New unnamed chipset MB for IB-E: $600
Complete geo-thermal cooling loop:$1000
DDR4 RAM: $500

So to get that system off the ground will be at least $13K
Although for about 55% the cost I could just get two Titans and toss them in the system below along with the 4K monitor, get 95% of the effect and call it a day. Diminishing returns are always fun biggrin.gif
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Titan/GK110 water cooled 4-Way GPU setup: $4200
Sharp IGZO 32" 4K: $5500
IB-E CPU: $1100
New unnamed chipset MB for IB-E: $600
Complete geo-thermal cooling loop:$1000
DDR4 RAM: $500


D

IB-E runs on LGA2011/ X79 chipset and use DDR3 Ram, so you will save some dough biggrin.gif Also recently MSI demoed a X79 mobo @ CES they say they will sell in H2 this year, so unless Intel left them completely in the dark X89 Chipset might not happen this year.
Edited by sherlock - 1/27/13 at 4:17pm
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I run my Classifieds RAM at 3703/7406. The core's can run 1400 MHz but I bump them down to 1380 to guarantee 24/7 gaming rock solid. I am sure I will end up with Titan's, I just hope the bottom doesn't fall out of the 680 Classifieds (with EVBOT) when I go to sell them lol. But only getting a-half return of what a Titan costs could be pretty disheartening when I fully expect performance not to be much more than 30% increase over 1400 MHz 680's.

I just think Titan will scale better at 4K resolution. How is that 4-way treating you with those three 120 Hz in surround? I kinda got away from Eyefinity/Surround and all the issues, now looking forward to single monitor 4K. I've never really had any issues with SLI/Crossfire when it came to single monitor. Usually all the problems start when you mix 2-4 GPU's and 3-5 monitors in some way.

Although the thought of running games on a 4K screen completely maxed out and never dipping blow 60 FPS sounds pretty sweet. Has me thinking about a build later this year:

Titan/GK110 water cooled 4-Way GPU setup: $4200
Sharp IGZO 32" 4K: $5500
IB-E CPU: $1100
New unnamed chipset MB for IB-E: $600
Complete geo-thermal cooling loop:$1000
DDR4 RAM: $500

So to get that system off the ground will be at least $13K
Although for about 55% the cost I could just get two Titans and toss them in the system below along with the 4K monitor, get 95% of the effect and call it a day. Diminishing returns are always fun biggrin.gif

Keep your DDR3 Ram, IVY-E won't use DDR4....
 
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Ah, I was just hearing some rumors that for IB-E Intel will release a new chipset to go along with it. Yes X79 will be compatible, but will be "old" by then. wink.gif Come on, this is Intel we are talking about here!
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Keep your DDR3 Ram, IVY-E won't use DDR4....

Actually, most rumors seem to indicate that there will be a new chipset for the Ivy-E supporting DDR-4. This is really no different than intel doing the 7 series chipset refresh for ivy bridge; technically IB can run just fine on the 6 series.

Haswell, however, will not support DDR4 initially. Last I heard, intel's roadmaps indicate Broadwell as the first consumer (ie non enthusiast extreme CPUs or xeon) CPU using DDR4.

So TL'DR: IB-E will be DDR4, Haswell will not.
Edited by xoleras - 1/27/13 at 4:28pm
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Ah, I was just hearing some rumors that for IB-E Intel will release a new chipset to go along with it. Yes X79 will be compatible, but will be "old" by then. wink.gif Come on, this is Intel we are talking about here!

The CPU will have two memory controllers in them? I figure 16Gig sticks will be out by then, don't think DDR4 will...
 
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Actually, most rumors seem to indicate that there will be a new chipset for the Ivy-E supporting DDR-4. This is really no different than intel doing the 7 series chipset refresh for ivy bridge; technically IB can run just fine on the 6 series.

Haswell, however, will not support DDR4 initially. Last I heard, intel's roadmaps indicate Broadwell as the first consumer (ie non enthusiast extreme CPUs or xeon) CPU using DDR4.

So TL'DR: IB-E will be DDR4, Haswell will not.

No, the IMC of a Intel system is on the CPU die itself, not the chipset, since the socket pin-out have to support this on-die IMC IB-E won't have DDR-4 IMC due to it being compatible with LGA 2011.
Sandy-E die-shot.



Haswell-E which succeeds IB-E will have DDR4, mainly because it will have a new pin-out( Socket R3, LGA2011 is Socket R), neither Ivy-E or Haswell will have DDR4.
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I run my Classifieds RAM at 3703/7406. The core's can run 1400 MHz but I bump them down to 1380 to guarantee 24/7 gaming rock solid. I am sure I will end up with Titan's, I just hope the bottom doesn't fall out of the 680 Classifieds (with EVBOT) when I go to sell them lol. But only getting a-half return of what a Titan costs could be pretty disheartening when I fully expect performance not to be much more than 30% increase over 1400 MHz 680's.

I just think Titan will scale better at 4K resolution. How is that 4-way treating you with those three 120 Hz in surround? I kinda got away from Eyefinity/Surround and all the issues, now looking forward to single monitor 4K. I've never really had any issues with SLI/Crossfire when it came to single monitor. Usually all the problems start when you mix 2-4 GPU's and 3-5 monitors in some way.

Although the thought of running games on a 4K screen completely maxed out and never dipping blow 60 FPS sounds pretty sweet. Has me thinking about a build later this year:

Titan/GK110 water cooled 4-Way GPU setup: $4200
Sharp IGZO 32" 4K: $5500
IB-E CPU: $1100
New unnamed chipset MB for IB-E: $600
Complete geo-thermal cooling loop:$1000
DDR4 RAM: $500

So to get that system off the ground will be at least $13K
Although for about 55% the cost I could just get two Titans and toss them in the system below along with the 4K monitor, get 95% of the effect and call it a day. Diminishing returns are always fun biggrin.gif

From what I can tell 1400 mhz classifieds at 7500 ram is over 30% a stock 680 so 80% plus of a 690, all I can say is having 30% over he 1400mhz classifieds would require a decent oc on the part of the Titan, and we are assuming the card will actually be 85% of a 690 in gaming and overclock by at least 25% on top of that.

If not at least for my surround gaming I would still need 3 or 4 titans to get any real improvement.

Just comes down to a gamble, sell theae great cards now for a good price and hope or wait to see what nvidia does at the cost of $200-300 loss per card lol

Surround is good in many games but it hates battlelog with a passion! Just played borderlands 2 in stereo 3d surround all 4 gpu's maxed, smooth as butter, moh multiplayer gives me 90-130 fps using 70-95 percent of the gpu power ave. About 82% some drivers smooth some a little micro stutter (of course using light boost hack)

If I could go to 2 titans with similar performance I would with no hesitation but I am not sure they will be much better ... now if you have a single 4k monitor that might be a bit different!
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I've got too much stuff going on right now to spend that kind of money on my rig. I'll be happy with two (maybe three) 680 Lightnings...
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The news of the Titan card has me a little concerned on what is in store for the 790. I've pretty much decided to stick with a dual-gpu the next few generations. Less power, less heat and easier to sell then 2 seperate gpu's. Will the 790 be (2) gk110's and if it is imagine the price of that beast. Or will it be modded gk104's. I just hope it allows me to run upcoming titles at full max. It really chaps my arse that I can't hold 60fps in 2560x1440 when adjusting msaa to 4x or higher on my 690. I need more power...........mad.gif
According to some people on here, 2gb of VRAM is good enough for anything, lol. That's probably your limiting factor, not gpu power
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