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Hello guys.
First of all im a noob in matter of water cooling. I ve read some guides and assembled the kit succesfully but i have additional questions. First of all i want to ask about tightening the block. The XSPC manual says only to screw those poles until the spring is compressed. Does it mean that i should tighten this until it cannot be moves with fingers ? Spring compression is ambiguous. I ve mounted the block 2 times as they included an old manual for the block so i didnt know how to exacly mount on LGA 2011 but 2nd time i fitted it ok but i tightened it strongest possible but then i started to think if it should be tightened as much. My only concern about putting the kit together is the tighting of the block. Anyone has raystorm and can explain how should i tighten it to make it prefectly ? I feel its mounted too hard now but well , what can i know . i m just starting an adventure with WC. I would appreciate any help.
The 2nd thing is I am using i7 3930K on Rampage IV extreme. For the entry i ve OC'ed simply increasign turbo ratio to 46 (4600 MHz - i presume its auto OC) and in idle im hitting 35-40 degrees celsius and in full load by OCCT linpack i get 75 on 1 core and rest of the cores are 70 . Are those good temps ?
Edited by izajasz - 1/21/13 at 6:30am
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Yes, you want to do "finger tight". You don't want to really torque down on it, as you might damage your CPU. NEVER use a tool like an adjustable wrench or pliers.

What you are basically looking for is enough pressure on the block so that it will press down on the thermal paste and squish it so that it fills every nook and cranny.

I have that exact same system, but it's not in front of me right now.

Maybe as a general rule, you could put it on the polls press the block to the CPU so it takes up all the slack, then evenly tighten down on the 4 screws until they start to meet with just a tiny bit more resistance, then turn it 2 or 3 more full turns each. It shouldn't compress much, just so much that it doesn't lift off the CPU. Also, when you start to tighten down, do it like you are putting on lug nuts on a car wheel ... tighten one nut, then tighten the opposite side, then pick the third, then do its opposite. In this case, I'd do 1 turn each, then repeat 2 or 3 times. That way, the pressure goes down as evenly as possible.
Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 1/21/13 at 6:34am
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Now its tightened quite hard but i must say that it goes really low and when the slight pressure starts it last really long until i get full STOP. My first mount was cranked to the bit but the PC works and the block doesnt seem to be damaged. This is really not good that XSPC doesnt say how exacly tight it should be on LGA 2011.... What about the temps ?
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I don't have a 3930, so I really can't say. But from the outside looking in, I'd say 35-40C on a 4.6GHz overlock and 70-75C when at full load is pretty reasonable. MAYBE a little warm (3-5C) at 4.6GHz, but again, I can't say for sure. A 3930K owner will really have to speak to that.


As far as the instructions, well, they have to be fairly general as there are a ton of combinations of chips, motherboards, etc.

http://www.xs-pc.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/raystorm-intel-amd.pdf

But as a general rule, you want to just do finger tight. Also, if it's the Raystorm with the plastic (as opposed to the limited edition nickle one), you want to tighten it down just before the plastic on the block starts to seriously deforming and bending.
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WEll , it would be nice to hear form Rampage IV Extreme mobo and 3930K owner as i am curious about the RIVE durability. My first block mount was cranked down to the max pressure and i am thinking if i could damage the mobo with that. I mean its still working etc cos my irst mount was really bad (the poles were screwed with the wrong side to the mobo - etc etc . This is a real fail that XPSC doesnt include mounting isntructions for 2011 socked as i think i could damage my PC and who the hell knows that one needs to unscrew the lower nut and unscrwe the pole etc ...... I thought they give a kit ready to mount... Anyway my mobo has integred backplate. I hope i did not damage anything so it wont die on me in a month or 2.
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I did dig up this if it helps ... Mounting XSPC raystorm block in RIVE
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Wow. Thank You very much . Im gonna read it carefully. in the meantime i made some photos




The dust develops so fast in my apartment. Forgive me : P Can those screws on the photos be considered as overtightened ? I ve just realized that the nuts used for 2011 are empty inside . First i thought that the spring is so compressed that it is tightened too hard but now i am thinking that maybe its mounted ok ?
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I'd look for bowing of the block, has it distorted so that there is a curve to its bottom, you know, the corners are bent down to the mobo where the bolts are pressing.

You don't want that in a raystorm block.


Ignore this advice, the block itself is bowed, meant to be. My bad. How do you feel about backing off the nuts and re-tightening them acc to what Addiction says ?
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I'd look for bowing of the block, has it distorted so that there is a curve to its bottom, you know, the corners are bent down to the mobo where the bolts are pressing.

You don't want that in a raystorm block.

Exactly. That's what I alluded to in my second post. It's hard to tell from the pictures, but it doesn't appear to be any major bending of the Raystorm, so I'm guessing it is ok. His numbers are also pretty good (again, I don't have a 3930K, so I can only go off what I've seen before that others report).

But as long as the Raystorm block isn't SERIOUSLY bowed towards the motherboard ... maybe just a little bit of a curve from being totally flat, I think he might be good. You could always take a small ruler or other straight edge (credit card, business card, etc) and put it on the Raystorm and you can see just how much the distortion is at the bolt location in relation to the center.
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Hello guys.
First of all im a noob in matter of water cooling. I ve read some guides and assembled the kit succesfully but i have additional questions. First of all i want to ask about tightening the block. The XSPC manual says only to screw those poles until the spring is compressed. Does it mean that i should tighten this until it cannot be moves with fingers ? Spring compression is ambiguous. I ve mounted the block 2 times as they included an old manual for the block so i didnt know how to exacly mount on LGA 2011 but 2nd time i fitted it ok but i tightened it strongest possible but then i started to think if it should be tightened as much. My only concern about putting the kit together is the tighting of the block. Anyone has raystorm and can explain how should i tighten it to make it prefectly ? I feel its mounted too hard now but well , what can i know . i m just starting an adventure with WC. I would appreciate any help.
The 2nd thing is I am using i7 3930K on Rampage IV extreme. For the entry i ve OC'ed simply increasign turbo ratio to 46 (4600 MHz - i presume its auto OC) and in idle im hitting 35-40 degrees celsius and in full load by OCCT linpack i get 75 on 1 core and rest of the cores are 70 . Are those good temps ?

I also got the old manual so I emailed them and they linked me to the manual on their site http://www.xs-pc.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/raystorm-intel-amd.pdf I think the matter of tightening the screws is more a matter of judgement than anything else. Bearing in mind it is two flat surfaces bearing down on each other it is best to go in the star formation and judge when it is tight enough. I guess it would be impossible to tighten it too much to the point where you could crush the CPU. My 3930K CPU is normally about 28 degrees on idle - what is the ambient temperature of your room?
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